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From: Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>
To: jamal <hadi@cyberus.ca>
Cc: Shailabh Nagar <nagar@watson.ibm.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lse-tech@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [UPDATED PATCH] Re: [Lse-tech] Re: [Patch 7/7] Generic netlink interface (delay	accounting)
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:51:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060313162112.GB7004@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1142083849.5184.69.camel@jzny2>

On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 08:30:49AM -0500, jamal wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-10-03 at 22:09 +0530, Balbir Singh wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:53:53AM -0500, jamal wrote: 
> 
> > > On kernel->user (in the case of response to #a or async notifiation as
> > > in #b) you really dont need to specify the TG/PID since they appear in
> > > the STATS etc.
> > 
> > I see your point now. I am looking at other users of netlink like
> > rtnetlink and I see the classical usage.
> > 
> > We can implement TLV's in our code, but for the most part the data we exchange
> > between the user <-> kernel has all the TLV's listed in the enum above.
> >
> > The major differnece is the type (pid/tgid). Hence we created a structure
> > (taskstats) instead of using TLV's.
> 
> Something to remember:
> 
> 1) TLVs are essentially giving you the flexibility to send optionally
> appearing elements. It is up to the receiver (in the kernel or user
> space) to check for the presence of mandatory elements or execute things
> depending on the presence of certain TLVs. Example in your case:
> if the tgid TLV appears then the user is requesting for that TLV
> if the pid appears then they are requesting for that
> if both appear then it is the && of the two.
> You should always ignore TLVs you dont understand - to allow for forward
> compatibility.
> 
> 2)  The "T" part is essentially also encoding (semantically) what size
> the value is; the "L" part is useful for validation. So the receiver
> will always know what the size of the TLV is by definition and uses the
> L to make sure it is the right size. Reject what is of the wrong size.
> 
> cheers,
> jamal

Thanks for the clarification, I will try and adapt our genetlink to use
TLV's, I can see the benefits - we will work on this as an evolutionary change
to our code.

Warm Regards,
Balbir

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-13 16:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-02-27  7:56 [Patch 0/7] Per-task delay accounting Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:02 ` [Patch 1/7] timespec diff utility Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:12   ` [Patch 2/7] Add sysctl for schedstats Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:52     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-02-27 10:46       ` [Lse-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-02-27 12:18         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 12:29           ` Balbir Singh
2006-02-27 13:06             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 16:16               ` Balbir Singh
2006-02-27  9:17     ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-27  9:41       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27 12:28         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-27 19:09       ` [Lse-tech] " Chandra Seetharaman
2006-02-28  0:25         ` Nick Piggin
2006-02-28  1:42           ` chandra seetharaman
2006-03-07 17:26       ` schedstats refinement (was Re: [Lse-tech] Re: [Patch 2/7] Add sysctl for schedstats) Balbir Singh
2006-02-27 17:05     ` [Lse-tech] [Patch 2/7] Add sysctl for schedstats Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-27 20:55       ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27 22:26         ` Bryan O'Sullivan
2006-02-27  8:22   ` [Patch 1/7] timespec diff utility Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  8:34     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:37       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  8:15 ` [Patch 3/7] delay accounting initial setup Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:18 ` [Patch 4/7] Add sysctl for delay accounting Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:26   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  8:38     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:42       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  8:59         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27 11:18           ` [Lse-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-02-27  9:04         ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-02-27  9:13           ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 10:11             ` [Lse-tech] " Balbir Singh
2006-02-27 11:24               ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 12:00                 ` Balbir Singh
2006-02-27 12:23                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-02-27  8:20 ` [Patch 5/7] synchronous block I/O delays Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:29   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  9:13     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  9:18       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  9:24       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 14:18   ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-27 21:31     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27 22:09     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27 22:20       ` Andi Kleen
2006-02-28  8:10       ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27  8:22 ` [Patch 6/7] Swapin page fault delays Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:30   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-02-27 22:16     ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-02-27  8:31 ` [Patch 7/7] Generic netlink interface (delay accounting) Shailabh Nagar
     [not found]   ` <1141045194.5363.12.camel@localhost.localdomain>
     [not found]     ` <4403608E.1050304@watson.ibm.com>
     [not found]       ` <1141652556.5185.64.camel@localhost.localdomain>
2006-03-06 17:00         ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-07 14:38           ` [Lse-tech] " jamal
2006-03-08 21:56             ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-09 14:37               ` [UPDATED PATCH] " Balbir Singh
2006-03-09 16:06                 ` Shailabh Nagar
2006-03-10 14:53                 ` jamal
2006-03-10 15:35                   ` jamal
2006-03-10 16:39                   ` Balbir Singh
2006-03-11 13:30                     ` jamal
2006-03-13 16:21                       ` Balbir Singh [this message]
2006-02-27  9:10 ` [Patch 0/7] Per-task delay accounting Nick Piggin

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