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Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:27:51 -0700
From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
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Subject: Re: Time to remove LSM (was Re: [RESEND][RFC][PATCH 2/7] implementation of LSM hooks)
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* Arjan van de Ven (arjan@infradead.org) wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-04-17 at 13:20 -0700, Chris Wright wrote:
> > * James Morris (jmorris@namei.org) wrote:
> > > How about enough time to get us to 2.6.18, say, two months?
> > 
> > Based on the discussions we had last year, I think the fair date would
> > be August not June.
> 
> why?
> this is already a year notice...
> lets get it over with.. notice goes in now
> removal to -mm, goes into 2.6.18

Because the discussion we had at OLS last year (late July) was if there
are no users in one year, it is gone.

> as it is its one helluva hook for the rootkit guys with only pain on the
> kernel side (eg selinux) because of the super abstraction.

The rootkit argument is not that compelling.  Lack of users certainly is.

thanks,
-chris