From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750833AbWFEJLD (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:11:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750832AbWFEJLD (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:11:03 -0400 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:1192 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750830AbWFEJLB (ORCPT ); Mon, 5 Jun 2006 05:11:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 02:10:54 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Christoph Hellwig Cc: jeff@garzik.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: merging new drivers (was Re: 2.6.18 -mm merge plans) Message-Id: <20060605021054.4d5428da.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20060605085918.GB26766@infradead.org> References: <20060604135011.decdc7c9.akpm@osdl.org> <20060605013223.GD17361@havoc.gtf.org> <20060604184711.0a328d18.akpm@osdl.org> <20060605085918.GB26766@infradead.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 5 Jun 2006 09:59:18 +0100 Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:47:11PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > Yes, I agree. As long as we reasonably think that a piece of code *will* > > become acceptable within a reasonable amount of time then going early is > > safe. > > > Definitly not the case for areca. The only progress at all is where people > like Arjan, Randy or me did very intensive babysitting. And it's still far > from beeing there. > > And especially in scsi land I'm absolutely against putting in more substandard > drivers. The subsystem is still badly plagued from lots of old drivers that > aren't up to any standards, and we need to decrease the maintaince load due > to odd drivers not increase it even further. So.. How are we going to get the Areca controllers supported in Linux? The code's been sitting in -mm for over a year and the vendor does have staff assigned to work on it.