From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750764AbWFKSy0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:54:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750791AbWFKSy0 (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:54:26 -0400 Received: from dsl027-180-168.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.27.180.168]:26302 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750764AbWFKSyZ (ORCPT ); Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:54:25 -0400 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 11:54:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20060611.115430.112290058.davem@davemloft.net> To: rlrevell@joe-job.com Cc: folkert@vanheusden.com, matti.aarnio@zmailer.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <1150048497.14253.140.camel@mindpipe> References: <20060610222734.GZ27502@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20060611160243.GH20700@vanheusden.com> <1150048497.14253.140.camel@mindpipe> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: Lee Revell Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 13:54:57 -0400 > On Sun, 2006-06-11 at 18:02 +0200, Folkert van Heusden wrote: > > Hmmm. > > What about using spamhaus.org sbl+xbl list? > > I used to receive 1200 spam messages a day, with spamhaus only half of > > that. > > What about doing nothing? The percentage of spam on LKML is vanishingly > small. We definitely need a better spam solution at vger, the reason is that the current mechanism (ad-hoc by-hand regexp blocking) creates lots of problems. For one thing, it means that people with names in languages other than english get blocked when their emails are quoted in postings. This is because we don't understand a lot of languages, so we just regexp block multibyte characters typically assosciated with that language in order to block spam written in that language. That isn't acceptable in the long term. To be honest I'm all for some kind of bayesian filter at vger as long as the rejected postings go somewhere into a folder I can scan every couple of days looking for false positives.