From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751124AbWFLIrq (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:46 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751181AbWFLIrq (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:46 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.de ([213.165.64.20]:48092 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751124AbWFLIro (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 04:47:44 -0400 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 10:47:39 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: Avi Kivity Cc: Rik van Riel , Theodore Tso , David Woodhouse , Matti Aarnio , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Message-ID: <20060612084739.GD11649@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Avi Kivity , Rik van Riel , Theodore Tso , David Woodhouse , Matti Aarnio , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <448C2298.5000409@argo.co.il> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <448C2298.5000409@argo.co.il> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-2006-06-08 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 11 Jun 2006, Avi Kivity wrote: > Can't it be corrected by having the thunk.org MTA relay messages from > @mit.edu through the MIT MTA? Presumably the MIT MTA will only be open > to authenticated users. That isn't "corrected", but "broken even further". What difference does it to the authenticity of the message or perhaps its envelope make who the postman is and into which mailbox the letter is posted? Use something sane please, not SPF. All the world break their mailers at Wong's command because a half-baked idea is raved about without thinking. It's bad enough GMX are posting SPF records - I disabled SPF on my inbound path, because GMX enable a per-recipient configuration of this nonsense - I can't opt out of their posting SPF records though... There's no need to repeat David's arguments counter to SPF for me. David's document says it all. -- Matthias Andree