From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751101AbWFLWzI (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:55:08 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752075AbWFLWzI (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:55:08 -0400 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:7379 "HELO mail.gmx.net") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751101AbWFLWzG (ORCPT ); Mon, 12 Jun 2006 18:55:06 -0400 X-Authenticated: #428038 Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 00:55:02 +0200 From: Matthias Andree To: Simon Oosthoek Cc: Matti Aarnio , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: VGER does gradual SPF activation (FAQ matter) Message-ID: <20060612225502.GA11800@merlin.emma.line.org> Mail-Followup-To: Simon Oosthoek , Matti Aarnio , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org References: <20060610222734.GZ27502@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <20060611072223.GA16150@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20060612083239.GA27502@mea-ext.zmailer.org> <448D8B2F.8060405@ti-wmc.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <448D8B2F.8060405@ti-wmc.nl> X-PGP-Key: http://home.pages.de/~mandree/keys/GPGKEY.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11-2006-06-08 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, 12 Jun 2006, Simon Oosthoek wrote: > Finally, if you consider doing this, why not consider closing the > mailinglist to a subscription only list, that will work so much better > than this "free lunch" (to quote someone else) OK, this was suggested elsewhere, and often, and list regulars keep replying they want the list open for bug submissions. Bugzilla for this task of bug reporting aside, if the list is closed, it seems someone will have to moderate messages from non-subscribers and allow sane ones to pass and discard the advertising. This is where Bayesian filtering can also help, by sorting out which message is likely spam and which is likely not and reducing the strain on the Bayesian filtering database janitors. Perhaps this is an acceptable compromise, but judging from past experience, I'd say it shouldn't be a promise but rather requires some information, such as knowing which percentage of postings are from unsubscribed list members. Are the numbers relevant at all? -- Matthias Andree