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From: Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: Sam Vilain <sam@vilain.net>, Kirill Korotaev <dev@openvz.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Williams <pwil3058@bigpond.net.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	sekharan@us.ibm.com, Balbir Singh <balbir@in.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, maeda.naoaki@jp.fujitsu.com,
	kurosawa@valinux.co.jp
Subject: Re: [RFC] CPU controllers?
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 22:18:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060617164812.GB4643@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4493C1D1.4020801@yahoo.com.au>

On Sat, Jun 17, 2006 at 06:48:17PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Srivatsa Vaddagiri wrote:
> >	- Do we need mechanisms to control CPU usage of tasks, further to 
> >	what
> >	  already exists (like nice)?  IMO yes.
> 
> Can we get back to the question of need? And from there, work out what
> features are wanted.
> 
> IMHO, having containers try to virtualise all resources (memory, pagecache,
> slab cache, CPU, disk/network IO...) seems insane: we may just as well use
> virtualisation.
> 
> So, from my POV, I would like to be convinced of the need for this first.
> I would really love to be able to keep core kernel simple and fast even if
> it means edge cases might need to use a slightly different solution.

I think a proportional-share scheduler (which is what a CPU controller
may provide) has non-container uses also. Do you think nice (or sched policy) 
is enough to, say, provide guaranteed CPU usage for applications or limit 
their CPU usage? Moreover it is more flexible if guarantee/limit can be 
specified for a group of tasks, rather than individual tasks even in
non-container scenarios (like limiting CPU usage of all web-server 
tasks togther or for limiting CPU usage of make -j command).

-- 
Regards,
vatsa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-06-17 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-15 13:46 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-15 21:52 ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-15 23:30 ` Peter Williams
2006-06-16  0:42   ` Matt Helsley
2006-06-17  8:48 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-17 15:55   ` Balbir Singh
2006-06-17 16:48   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri [this message]
2006-06-18  5:06     ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18  5:53       ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18  6:11         ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18  6:40           ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-18  7:17             ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18  6:42           ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18  7:28             ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-19 19:03               ` Resource Management Requirements (was "[RFC] CPU controllers?") Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-20  5:40                 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-18  7:36             ` [RFC] CPU controllers? Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18  7:49               ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18  7:49               ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-18  9:09               ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-18  9:49                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19  6:28                   ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19  6:35                     ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-19  6:46                       ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-19 18:21               ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-20  6:20                 ` Mike Galbraith
2006-06-18  7:18         ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2006-06-19  2:07           ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19  7:04             ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19  8:19               ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19  8:41                 ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19  8:53                   ` Sam Vilain
2006-06-19 21:44                     ` MAEDA Naoaki
2006-06-19 18:14   ` Chris Friesen
2006-06-19 19:11     ` Chandra Seetharaman
2006-06-19 20:28       ` Chris Friesen

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