From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965122AbWFTH3g (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:29:36 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965125AbWFTH3f (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:29:35 -0400 Received: from rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de ([129.143.116.10]:45469 "EHLO rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965122AbWFTH3f (ORCPT ); Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:29:35 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 09:29:33 +0200 From: Andreas Mohr To: Dave Jones , Pavel Machek , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [RFC/SERIOUS] grilling troubled CPUs for fun and profit? Message-ID: <20060620072933.GA3030@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> References: <20060619191543.GA17187@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> <20060619221655.GB1648@openzaurus.ucw.cz> <20060619224312.GB17134@redhat.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060619224312.GB17134@redhat.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i X-Priority: none Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Hi, [whoa, maybe I shouldn't have used such an inflammatory subject, the mail volume would suggest that ;-)] On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 06:43:12PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2006 at 12:16:55AM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote: > > > > Am I completely missing something here? > > > > Yes. You are missing that modern hw already protects itself. See my blog on planet.kernel.org. > > And you are missing that not everyone is running linux on the latest CPUs. Darn right. Intel has been having thermal protection for a somewhat longer time, but Athlon had serious issues with missing or incompletely functioning thermal sensors on many not too outdated (let's say it was 4 years ago, ok?) motherboard/CPU combos. And I don't really want to know about thermal protection status of various Cyrix, VIA or even Winchip CPUs (you've been a nic^H^Hïve believer of competition in a healthy marketplace and bought some of those, right? I know I did... ;). But since Pavel's blog mentions that thermal protection is an ACPI specification, there's hope that it may actually work half-decently after all. Andreas Mohr