From: Andreas Mohr <andim2@users.sourceforge.net>
To: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
andi@lisas.de, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, hal@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] USB/hal: USB open() broken? (USB CD burner underruns, USB HDD hard resets)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:34:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060621163410.GA22736@rhlx01.fht-esslingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0606211802590.3817@be1.lrz>
Hi,
On Wed, Jun 21, 2006 at 06:16:03PM +0200, Bodo Eggert wrote:
> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Ar Mer, 2006-06-21 am 02:07 +0200, ysgrifennodd Bodo Eggert:
>
> > > This does not work, since O_EXCL does not work:
> > > http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/2/5/137
> >
> > It works fine. Its an advisory exclusive locking scheme which is
> > precisely what is needed and precisely how some vendors implement their
> > solution.
>
> This will be as effective as "/var/lock/please-don't-touch-the-burner",
> and the lock is more portable ...
Indeed, until all(!) relevant apps specify the cooperative O_EXCL flag,
there will always be some trouble left somewhere...
And of course don't even dare trying to do a simply shell cat on the raw
I/O device during an ongoing burning operation, will you!?
Maybe it's better to (additionally?) go down the route of fixing up
low-level communication weaknesses (since it's been semi-confirmed that it's
an USB communication issue, see other thread part).
IMHO this is a severe user experience issue that shouldn't be fixed up
("covered", "hidden") by the O_EXCL thingy alone.
Andreas Mohr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-06-21 16:34 UTC|newest]
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2006-06-21 0:07 ` Bodo Eggert
2006-06-21 10:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-21 16:16 ` Bodo Eggert
2006-06-21 16:34 ` Andreas Mohr [this message]
2006-06-21 19:02 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-21 19:16 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-21 19:56 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-21 20:38 ` Bodo Eggert
2006-06-21 20:37 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-19 8:21 Andreas Mohr
2006-06-20 8:37 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-20 9:06 ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Cox
2006-06-20 9:05 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-20 10:18 ` Alan Cox
2006-06-20 14:22 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-21 9:33 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-21 16:15 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-21 16:44 ` Andreas Mohr
2006-06-21 19:06 ` Alan Stern
2006-06-21 20:52 ` Alan Cox
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