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From: "Randy.Dunlap" <rdunlap@xenotime.net>
To: Nathan Lynch <ntl@pobox.com>
Cc: akpm@osdl.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ashok.raj@intel.com, pavel@ucw.cz,
	clameter@sgi.com, ak@suse.de, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	mingo@elte.hu
Subject: Re: [PATCH] stop on cpu lost
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:45:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060622084513.4717835e.rdunlap@xenotime.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060622150848.GL16029@localdomain>

On Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:08:48 -0500 Nathan Lynch wrote:

> Andrew Morton wrote:
> > KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Now, when a task loses all of its allowed cpus because of cpu hot removal,
> > > it will be foreced to migrate to not-allowed cpus.
> > > 
> > > In this case, the task is not properly reconfigurated by a user before
> > > cpu-hot-removal. Here, the task (and system) is in a unexpeced wrong state.
> > > This migration is maybe one of realistic workarounds. But sometimes it will be
> > > harmfull.
> > > (stealing other cpu time, making bugs in thread controllers, do some unexpected
> > >  execution...)
> > > 
> > > This patch adds sysctl "sigstop_on_cpu_lost". When sigstop_on_cpu_lost==1,
> > > a task which losts is cpu will be stopped by SIGSTOP.
> > > Depends on system management policy, mis-configurated applications are stopped.
> > > 
> > 
> > Well that's a pretty unpleasant patch, isn't it?
> > 
> > But I guess it's policy, and if we cannot think of anything better then we'll
> > have to do it this way :(
> 
> I tend to favor not changing the kernel to handle this case.  We're
> already making a best effort attempt to handle conflicting directives
> from the admin.  This is a policy that can be implemented in userspace
> without much trouble.
> 
> If we really want to keep the admin shooting himself in the foot,
> wouldn't it be preferable to fail the offline operation if there are
> user tasks exclusively bound to the cpu?

Sounds much better than just killing the process.

> While we're on the subject, what if there are interrupts bound to the
> cpu you want to offline?  Should we consider handling that case
> differently as well?


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~Randy

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-22 15:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-20  3:51 KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-06-22  5:56 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-22  6:14   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 15:08   ` Nathan Lynch
2006-06-22 15:45     ` Randy.Dunlap [this message]
2006-06-22 15:45       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 16:05         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-06-22 16:14           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 16:24           ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-06-22 17:04             ` Nathan Lynch
2006-06-22 17:20               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2006-06-22 18:22             ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-22 18:35               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 18:37                 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-22 18:54               ` Hugh Dickins
2006-06-22 19:27                 ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-22 19:46                   ` Hugh Dickins
2006-06-22 19:57                     ` Nick Piggin
2006-06-22 20:25                       ` Hugh Dickins
2006-06-22 21:44                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-22 19:52               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-06-22 21:46                 ` Pavel Machek

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