From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751479AbWFWPjJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:39:09 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751477AbWFWPjJ (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:39:09 -0400 Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.209]:12725 "HELO smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751244AbWFWPjF (ORCPT ); Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:39:05 -0400 From: David Brownell To: linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] [PATCH] get USB suspend to work again on 2.6.17-mm1 Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 08:38:57 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.7.1 Cc: Alan Stern , Greg KH , Andrew Morton , linux-pm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Mattia Dongili , pavel@suse.cz, Jiri Slaby References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200606230838.57957.david-b@pacbell.net> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Friday 23 June 2006 7:51 am, Alan Stern wrote: > Ah, there's the rub. If a driver doesn't have suspend/resume methods, is > it because it doesn't need them, or is it because nobody has written them > yet? In the latter case, failing the suspend or unbinding the driver are > the only safe courses. I think the former would ba a dangerous assumption ... in the category of "intermittent bugs triggering later on" rather than "easily reproduced bugs triggering right at the trouble spot" (like the latter). - Dave