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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, penberg@cs.helsinki.fi,
	marcelo@kvack.org, paulmck@us.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au,
	tytso@mit.edu, dgc@sgi.com, ak@suse.de
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] Object reclaim via the slab allocator V1
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:09:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060628200942.6eea8ae5.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0606281741380.24393@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>

On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:47:17 -0700 (PDT)
Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006, Andrew Morton wrote:
> 
> > > 2. A destructor was provided during kmem_cache_create().
> > >    If SLAB_DTOR_FREE is passed in the flags of the destructor
> > >    then a best effort attempt will be made to free that object.
> > > 
> > 
> > It would be better to make the higher-level code register callbacks for
> > this sort of thing.  That code knows how to determine if an object is
> > freeable, can manage aging info, etc.
> 
> The destructor is such a callback.

I was, of course, referring to the unpleasant requirement that the object
layout start with an atomic_t.


> > > For slab we check all the objects in the slab. If all object have
> > > a refcount of one then we free all the objects and return the pages of the
> > > object to the page allocator.
> > 
> > That seems like quite a drawback.  A single refcount=2 object on the page
> > means that nothing gets freed from that page at all.  It'd be easy
> > (especially with dcache) to do tons of work without achieving anything.
> 
> We will always reclaim a few object from each page. See the patch.

I read the description.

> Single refcount=2 objects could also be detected and we could try to free 
> them.
> 
> > a) compact dentries by copying them around or, perhaps,
> 
> Since we free some dentries in each block they will be effectively be 
> moved because they get reallocated in a current slab block.

By performing a disk read.  That is not compaction - it is eviction.

> > b) make dentry reclaim be guided by the dcache tree: do a bottom-up
> >    reclaim, or a top-down reclaim when we hit a directory, etc.  Something
> >    which understands the graph rather than the plain global LRU.
> 
> The callback can make that determination and could trigger these events.
> The callback notifies the higher layers that it would be advantageous to 
> free this element. The higher layers can then analyze the situation and 
> either free or give up.

How do you propose handling the locking?  dcache is passed a bare pointer
and no locks are held, but it is guaranteed that the object won't be freed
while it's playing with it?

If so, take dcache_lock and then validate the object's current state in
some manner?


  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-29  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-19 18:46 Christoph Lameter
2006-06-19 18:46 ` [RFC 1/4] slab freeing consolidation Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:18   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:38     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-19 18:47 ` [RFC 2/4] Remove empty destructor from drivers/usb/mon/mon_text.c Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:22   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-19 18:47 ` [RFC 3/4] Add checks to current destructor uses Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:24   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:40     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-19 18:47 ` [PATCH 4/4] Slab Reclaim logic Christoph Lameter
2006-06-19 18:53   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:34   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:42     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:46       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:49         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:41   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:44     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-22 19:46       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:49       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-22 19:52         ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-19 20:50 ` [RFC 0/4] Object reclaim via the slab allocator V1 Andi Kleen
2006-06-29  0:43 ` Andrew Morton
2006-06-29  0:47   ` Christoph Lameter
2006-06-29  3:09     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-06-29 17:20       ` Christoph Lameter
2006-07-03  0:44         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-07-03 18:10           ` Christoph Lameter
2006-07-03 23:11             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-07-04  1:46               ` Christoph Lameter
2006-07-04  2:07                 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2006-07-04  2:37                   ` Christoph Lameter

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