From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751810AbWGAQB0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Jul 2006 12:01:26 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751815AbWGAQB0 (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Jul 2006 12:01:26 -0400 Received: from emailhub.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:29970 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1751810AbWGAQBZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 1 Jul 2006 12:01:25 -0400 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 18:01:23 +0200 From: Adrian Bunk To: Olivier Galibert , James Courtier-Dutton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, Alan Cox , perex@suse.cz, Olaf Hering Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round Message-ID: <20060701160123.GB17588@stusta.de> References: <20060629192128.GE19712@stusta.de> <44A54D8E.3000002@superbug.co.uk> <20060630163114.GA12874@dspnet.fr.eu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060630163114.GA12874@dspnet.fr.eu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060403 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 06:31:14PM +0200, Olivier Galibert wrote: > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 05:13:02PM +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > > Adrian Bunk wrote: > > >- ALSA #1735 (OSS emulation 4-channel mode rear channels not working) > > > > As the MAINTAINER of EMU10K1, I am happy for EMU10K1 driver to be > > removed from the kernel. > > > > ALSA #1735 is now closed. All the apps the user was trying also support > > ALSA natively now, so OSS is not needed. > > Are you joking ? Besides what was already mentioned in this thread, let me add some points: - most Linux applications already support ALSA - kernel 2.6.0 with ALSA as default sound system was released in 2003 - the ALSA developers provide an in-kernel OSS emulation - the ALSA developers provide an alternative user space OSS emulation - there are many new soundcards without any OSS driver at all [1] Compatibility is important, and it's nearly always working (e.g. "aoss audacity" works for me perfectly). There are only few exotic cornercases like ALSA #1735 where a subset of the OSS functionality is not working in the OSS emulation - and I doubt it would be worth putting much effort into fixing such cornercases. > OG. cu Adrian [1] we are talking about the in-kernel OSS drivers, not the commercial OSS -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed