From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1750843AbWGCSq6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:46:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1750842AbWGCSq6 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:46:58 -0400 Received: from baikonur.stro.at ([213.239.196.228]:45981 "EHLO baikonur.stro.at") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750783AbWGCSq5 (ORCPT ); Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:46:57 -0400 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:46:47 +0200 From: maximilian attems To: Rob Landley Cc: Roman Zippel , klibc@zytor.com, Jeff Garzik , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andi Kleen , torvalds@osdl.org, "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [klibc] klibc and what's the next step? Message-ID: <20060703184647.GA14100@baikonur.stro.at> References: <44A16E9C.70000@zytor.com> <200607031430.47296.rob@landley.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200607031430.47296.rob@landley.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 02:30:45PM -0400, Rob Landley wrote: > On Wednesday 28 June 2006 8:04 pm, Roman Zippel wrote: > > If you are concerned about this simply keep the whole thing optional. > > Embedded application usually know their boot device and they don't need no > > fancy initramfs. > > Actually, a lot of embedded applications like initramfs because it saves > memory (a ram block device, a filesystem driver, and filesystem overhead.) > Don't use embedded applications as a reason _not_ to do this! > > BusyBox has had explicit support for initramfs (switch_root) for several > versions now. I pestered HPA about building a subset of BusyBox against > klibc (and cross-compiling klibc for non-x86 platforms) at the Consumer > Electronics Linux Forum, but haven't had time to follow up yet. > > Rob well but busybox is big nowadays and generally compiled against glibc. i'm quite eager to kick busybox out of default Debian initramfs-tools to have an klibc only default initramfs. those tools are needed atm, and there is not enough yet. afaik suse adds sed on klibc with a minimal patch and we'd liked to have stat, kill and readlink on klibc-utils. how about busybox on klibc? -- maks