From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1161000AbWGIAT3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 20:19:29 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1161001AbWGIAT2 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 20:19:28 -0400 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:54536 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1161000AbWGIAT1 (ORCPT ); Sat, 8 Jul 2006 20:19:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2006 02:19:24 +0200 From: Olivier Galibert To: Alan Cox Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Bojan Smojver , Jan Rychter , Pavel Machek , Avuton Olrich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig , Nigel Cunningham Subject: Re: [Suspend2-devel] Re: uswsusp history lesson Message-ID: <20060709001924.GA71724@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , Alan Cox , Arjan van de Ven , Bojan Smojver , Jan Rychter , Pavel Machek , Avuton Olrich , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, suspend2-devel@lists.suspend2.net, grundig , Nigel Cunningham References: <20060707232523.GC1746@elf.ucw.cz> <200607080933.12372.ncunningham@linuxmail.org> <20060708002826.GD1700@elf.ucw.cz> <1152353698.2555.11.camel@coyote.rexursive.com> <1152355318.3120.26.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060708164312.GA36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1152377246.3120.65.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20060708174928.GC36499@dspnet.fr.eu.org> <1152395189.27368.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1152395189.27368.40.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:46:29PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote: > The "free" OSS was superior to the proprietary one in pretty much every > respect by the time ALSA had really got beyond being a neat alternative > driver for a couple of chips. > > So no I don't think so. ALSA still needs more dieting but the OSS API > really didnt do the job. Ok. The current API looks better, but I agree I don't know the exact timings. Using ALSA is still hell-on-earth though. And the actual kernel interface is quite puke-worthy. OG.