From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965335AbWGJX7k (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:59:40 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965336AbWGJX7j (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:59:39 -0400 Received: from dspnet.fr.eu.org ([213.186.44.138]:17161 "EHLO dspnet.fr.eu.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965335AbWGJX7j (ORCPT ); Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:59:39 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:59:35 +0200 From: Olivier Galibert To: Adam Tla?ka Cc: Lee Revell , ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Subject: Re: [Alsa-devel] OSS driver removal, 2nd round (v2) Message-ID: <20060710235934.GC26528@dspnet.fr.eu.org> Mail-Followup-To: Olivier Galibert , Adam Tla?ka , Lee Revell , ak@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, perex@suse.cz, alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk References: <20060707231716.GE26941@stusta.de> <1152458300.28129.45.camel@mindpipe> <20060710132810.551a4a8d.atlka@pg.gda.pl> <1152571717.19047.36.camel@mindpipe> <44B2E4FF.9000502@pg.gda.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <44B2E4FF.9000502@pg.gda.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 01:38:39AM +0200, Adam Tla?ka wrote: > Sorry but is a Windows solution the best on the whole world? ALSA, with its "the API is a DLL", is a Windows solution. > >esd and artsd are no longer needed since ALSA began to enable software > >mixing by default in release 1.0.9. > > So why they are still exist in so many Linux distributions? That's an extremely recent change in distribution-time. > Format changing, resampling, mixing and supporting additional plugins > does not seems to be just low level HAL for hw device. It creates some > kind of virtual functionality which means more then this provided by > hardware device itself. ALSA lib has something like 7 different methods just to play a sound. Their view of "low level" is quite interesting. Using it is pure hell. Debugging what you've done is worse. And don't bother to hope that your code will still work in six months. OG.