From: Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>
To: Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>
Cc: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, klibc@zytor.com, torvalds@osdl.org
Subject: Re: klibc and what's the next step?
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2006 13:58:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060713115800.GE5675@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060711044834.GA11694@suse.de>
Hi!
> > So anyone who likes to see klibc merged, because it will solve some kind
> > of problem for him, please speak up now. Without this information it's
> > hard to judge whether we're going to solve the right problems.
>
> I do not want to see kinit merged.
> It (the merge into linux-2.6.XY) doesnt solve any real problem in the long term.
> Instead, make a kinit distribution. Let it install itself into an obvious
> location on the development box (/usr/lib/kinit/* or whatever), remove all
> code behind prepare_namespace() and put a disclaimer into the Linux 2.6.XY
> releasenote stating where to grab and build a kinit binary:
> make && sudo make install
> It can even provide its own CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE file, so that would
> be the only required change to the used .config.
>
> The rationale is that there are essentially 2 kind of consumers:
>
> One is the kind that builds static kernels and uses no initrd of any kind.
> For those people, the code and interfaces behind prepare_namespace() has
> not changed in a long time.
> They will install that kinit binary once and it will continue to work with
That is the problem... kernel did not use to depend on kinit, and this
is considered stable series. So if kernel wants to depend on kinit, it
needs to ship it itself.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-13 11:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-06-26 0:57 [klibc 00/43] klibc as a historyless patchset H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 13:12 ` klibc and what's the next step? Roman Zippel
2006-06-27 13:39 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-27 16:42 ` [klibc] " Greg KH
2006-06-28 23:46 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-27 17:01 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27 17:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 17:40 ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-27 17:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 20:22 ` Joshua Hudson
2006-06-28 5:47 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 0:04 ` Roman Zippel
2006-07-03 18:30 ` Rob Landley
2006-07-03 18:46 ` [klibc] " maximilian attems
2006-07-04 1:36 ` Jeff Bailey
2006-07-04 2:02 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 14:07 ` Jon Smirl
2006-06-27 14:40 ` Jeff Bailey
2006-06-27 19:47 ` Milton Miller
2006-06-28 23:56 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-29 0:34 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-29 23:33 ` Roman Zippel
2006-06-30 8:00 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-06-30 18:08 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-30 22:58 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-30 18:11 ` Pavel Machek
2006-06-30 23:04 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-06-30 23:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-01 10:56 ` [klibc] " Jeff Bailey
2006-07-01 15:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-01 20:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-01 21:58 ` Al Viro
2006-07-01 22:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-02 0:05 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-02 0:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-02 0:38 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-02 0:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-01 22:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-03 7:23 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2006-07-03 21:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-01 15:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-01 15:47 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-06-30 23:32 ` Pavel Machek
2006-07-11 4:48 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 10:29 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 11:27 ` [klibc] " Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 16:24 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 16:40 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-11 17:16 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:23 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 17:30 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 17:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:01 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:10 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 19:15 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 19:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-11 19:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 19:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-07-11 19:59 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-07-11 20:01 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-11 20:11 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 20:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:06 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 18:15 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 18:53 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-11 18:46 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-07-11 20:06 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 20:22 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 21:22 ` Greg KH
2006-07-12 16:54 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-12 16:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-12 17:01 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-12 21:36 ` Greg KH
2006-07-11 17:55 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 17:46 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 17:52 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 18:02 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 10:51 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-07-11 13:45 ` Theodore Tso
2006-07-11 14:28 ` Michael Tokarev
2006-07-11 15:13 ` [klibc] " Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 15:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-07-11 15:47 ` Olaf Hering
2006-07-11 16:21 ` Alan Cox
2006-07-11 14:32 ` Rene Herman
2006-07-12 15:23 ` David Lang
2006-07-13 11:58 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-06-27 18:59 ` [klibc 00/43] klibc as a historyless patchset Milton Miller
2006-06-27 19:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
2006-06-27 20:39 ` Milton Miller
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