From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1422751AbWGNUTx (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:19:53 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1422761AbWGNUTx (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:19:53 -0400 Received: from dsl027-180-168.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.27.180.168]:62443 "EHLO sunset.davemloft.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1422751AbWGNUTw (ORCPT ); Fri, 14 Jul 2006 16:19:52 -0400 Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 13:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20060714.131957.57444250.davem@davemloft.net> To: dwmw2@infradead.org Cc: arjan@infradead.org, maillist@jg555.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ralf@linux-mips.org Subject: Re: 2.6.18 Headers - Long From: David Miller In-Reply-To: <1152908202.3191.98.camel@pmac.infradead.org> References: <44B7F062.8040102@jg555.com> <1152905987.3159.46.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <1152908202.3191.98.camel@pmac.infradead.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.4 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org From: David Woodhouse Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2006 21:16:42 +0100 > More to the point, now we're doing this from upstream we can be > _consistent_ about telling them to sod off and fix their broken crap. > > We no longer have to deal with cries of 'but it works on $SOMEDISTRO' > when another distro tries to impose some sanity rather than just > pandering to it. > > Kernel headers are _not_ a library of random crap for userspace to use. I totally agree. When I saw that some dists make asm/page.h define PAGE_SIZE to "getpagesize()" for userspace, I nearly crapped myself. That is insane, and encourages the problem to persist instead of encouraging the right fix.