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From: Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@gmx.de>
To: Grzegorz Kulewski <kangur@polcom.net>
Cc: Diego Calleja <diegocg@gmail.com>,
	arjan@infradead.org, caleb@calebgray.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Reiser4 Inclusion
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:51:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060717155151.GD8276@merlin.emma.line.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0607171611080.10427@alpha.polcom.net>

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006, Grzegorz Kulewski wrote:

> Keeping Reiser4 out of kernel is even worse (for those users, other users 
> that could test this filesystem, for Reiser4 developers and whole 
> comunity) than accepting it for a try period with a big fat warning that 
> it my be removed if Namesys abandons futher fixing of it (after some time 
> to let user migrate).

And what are you going to do in the meanwhile, if reiser4 should be
fundamentally broken because namesys decided reiser11 was so much cooler
to work on, as has happened with 3.6 which still cannot handle hash
collisions properly?

> And any arguments like "if Reiser4 is not in the kernel then people will 
> not use and depend on it" are fundamentally flawed IMHO. Everything bad 
> that could happen with Reiser4 in the kernel can happen with Reiser4 out 
> of it.

Right, but accepting it into baseline is seen as "endorsement" by major
parts of the audience, and this is in fact what they like to see.

> It may look like some kernel developers are trying hard not to take 
> responsibility for Reiser4 saying that there is very huge difference 
> between selecting highly experimental kernel feature that is marked so and 
> patching the kernel with it. Sorry but I think there is very little 
> difference. And that little difference is only hurting users that want to 
> try and test something new.

Any why can those users not download and apply a patch, try it and
report back to Namesys?

-- 
Matthias Andree

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-17 15:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-17  3:02 Caleb Gray
2006-07-17  9:25 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-17 11:48   ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 11:57     ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 14:06     ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:31       ` Grzegorz Kulewski
2006-07-17 15:51         ` Matthias Andree [this message]
2006-07-18  7:59           ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-18 20:47             ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19  1:19               ` Joshua Hudson
2006-07-19  9:27               ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 11:00                 ` Krzysztof Halasa
2006-07-19 11:03                 ` Pekka Enberg
2006-07-19 15:32                   ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 19:04                     ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 19:12                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 20:09                         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-19 22:36                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2006-07-19 20:29                       ` Jeff V. Merkey
2006-07-19 22:01                         ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-19 22:34                     ` Helge Hafting
2006-07-17 15:52         ` gmu 2k6
2006-07-17 15:57           ` Alexander Gran
2006-07-17 19:01         ` Horst von Brand
2006-07-17 15:13     ` Jeff Anderson-Lee
2006-07-17 15:56       ` Matthias Andree
2006-07-17 20:48       ` Erik Mouw
2006-07-18  0:49         ` Jeff Dike
2006-07-18 11:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2006-07-17  9:44 ` Patrick McFarland
2006-07-17 11:07 ` Diego Calleja
2006-07-17 14:38 ` Alex Riesen
2006-07-17 18:05 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2006-07-18 23:10   ` Nix
2006-07-19  6:56 ` Reiser4 ACLs Marc Perkel
2006-07-19 15:03   ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-07-17 22:34 Reiser4 Inclusion linux
     [not found] <06Jul25.011533edt.35900@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca>
2006-07-30 22:02 ` Tilman Schmidt

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