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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Matthias Urlichs <smurf@smurf.noris.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, johnstul@us.ibm.com,
	torvalds@osdl.org, bunk@stusta.de, lethal@linux-sh.org,
	hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp
Subject: Re: REGRESSION: the new i386 timer code fails to sync CPUs
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2006 05:37:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060723053755.0aaf9ce0.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060723120829.GA7776@kiste.smurf.noris.de>

On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 14:08:29 +0200
Matthias Urlichs <smurf@smurf.noris.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Andrew Morton:
> > - CPU0 and CPU1 share a TSC and CPU2 and CPU3 share another TSC.
> > 
> That mmakes sense, since they're one dual-core Xeon each.

OK.

> > - Earlier kernels didn't use the TSC as a time source whereas this one
> >   does, hence the problems which you're observing.
> > 
> Correct; see below.
> 
> > I assume that booting with clock=pit or clock=pmtmr fixes it?
> > 
> Testing... yes, both.
> 
> > It would be useful to check your 2.6.17 boot logs, see if we can work out
> > what 2.6.17 was using for a clock source.
> > 
> That's easy:
> 
> 2.6.17    -Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
> 2.6.18git +Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
> 
> I missed those two lines, as in the boot logs they're not really
> adjacent, so they got lost in the jumble of other differences.

OK, thanks.  Marking the TSC as bad in this case is simple to do - let us
let John work out the best way.

We must have lost a TSC sanity check somewhere along the way.  I wonder
what it was?

> Interestingly, CPU0/1 gets 6000 bogomips while CPU2/3 only reaches 5600 ..?
> (That happens with both kernels.) I do wonder why, and whether this has any
> bearing on the current problem.

I wouldn't expect it to matter, unless the TSCs are running at different
speeds or something.

Also the sched-domain migration costs are grossly different between the two
kernels.  Maybe we changed the migration-cost-estimation code; I forget.

I'll see if we can get an expert opinion on the write_tsc() failure.

  reply	other threads:[~2006-07-23 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-07-22 23:36 Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-23  0:36 ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-23  8:16   ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-23 11:46     ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-23 12:08       ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-23 12:37         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-07-23 12:58           ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-24 15:52           ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-07-24 15:58           ` john stultz
2006-07-24 17:17             ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-24 17:51               ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-24 20:54                 ` john stultz
2006-07-30  9:03                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-30  9:49                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-30 20:10                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-30 20:55                       ` Andrew Morton
2006-07-30 21:13                       ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-30 21:20                         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-07-30 21:55                           ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-08-01  1:47                             ` Siddha, Suresh B
2006-08-01  3:14                               ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-30 21:57                         ` Andi Kleen
2006-07-30 22:28                           ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-31 14:24                     ` Matthias Urlichs
2006-07-24 17:39             ` Andi Kleen

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