From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751269AbWGaEun (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:50:43 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751473AbWGaEun (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:50:43 -0400 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:25751 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751269AbWGaEun (ORCPT ); Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:50:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:50:25 -0700 From: Andrew Morton To: Greg KH Cc: ajwade@cpe001346162bf9-cm0011ae8cd564.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com, laurent.riffard@free.fr, andrew.j.wade@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Kubuntu's udev broken with 2.6.18-rc2-mm1 Message-Id: <20060730215025.44292f9c.akpm@osdl.org> In-Reply-To: <20060731043542.GA9919@kroah.com> References: <20060727015639.9c89db57.akpm@osdl.org> <44CCBBC7.3070801@free.fr> <20060731000359.GB23220@kroah.com> <200607302227.07528.ajwade@cpe001346162bf9-cm0011ae8cd564.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> <20060731033757.GA13737@kroah.com> <20060730212227.175c844c.akpm@osdl.org> <20060731043542.GA9919@kroah.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 2.2.4 (GTK+ 2.8.17; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:35:42 -0700 Greg KH wrote: > Remember, FC3 is now in Legacy support mode, not something the mainline > kernel should have to worry about. It's not specifically related to FC3. It's udev - we've broken _any_ distribution which uses a two-year-old udev. In fact we're proposing breaking any distro which has an older-than-ten-month udev. That's really bad. It's worse on FC3 because there is, as far as I can tell, no rpm or srpm which can be used to unbreak it. And pointing at Documentation/Changes doesn't alter that, does it? Personally, there's no way I'm upgrading this box because I _want_ to run old distros to catch things like this. So I'll hack it around to work somehow. I can do that, because I'm a developer. Are we going to stop doing this soon?