From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>
Cc: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: RFC - how to balance Dirty+Writeback in the face of slow writeback.
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:34:46 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060817223446.10ef5e8e.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1155831532.5620.12.camel@localhost>
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 12:18:52 -0400
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 08:30 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:21:51 -0400
> > Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no> wrote:
> > > Exactly how would a request limit help? All that boils down to is having
> > > the VM monitor global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY) versus monitoring
> > > global_page_state(NR_FILE_DIRTY)+global_page_state(NR_WRITEBACK).
> > >
> >
> > I assume that if NFS is not limiting its NR_WRITEBACK consumption and block
> > devices are doing so, we could get in a situation where NFS hogs all of the
> > fixed-size NR_DIRTY+NR_WRITEBACK resource at the expense of concurrent
> > block-device-based writeback.
>
> Since NFS has no control over NR_DIRTY, how does controlling
> NR_WRITEBACK help? The only resource that NFS shares with the block
> device writeout queues is memory.
Block devices have a limit on the amount of IO which they will queue. NFS
doesn't.
> IOW: The resource that needs to be controlled is the dirty pages, not
> the write-out queue. Unless you can throttle back on the creation of
> dirty NFS pages in the first place, then the potential for unfairness
> will exist.
Please read the whole thread - we're violently agreeing.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-18 5:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-14 23:40 Neil Brown
2006-08-15 8:06 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-15 23:00 ` David Chinner
2006-08-17 4:08 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17 6:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 12:36 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-17 15:14 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 16:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-18 5:49 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 10:43 ` Nikita Danilov
2006-08-18 0:11 ` David Chinner
2006-08-18 6:29 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 7:03 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-18 7:11 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-18 18:57 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-21 0:35 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21 3:15 ` David Chinner
2006-08-21 7:24 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21 13:51 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-25 4:36 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-25 6:37 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-28 1:28 ` David Chinner
2006-08-25 13:16 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-27 8:21 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-21 14:28 ` David Chinner
2006-08-25 5:24 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-28 1:55 ` David Chinner
2006-08-21 7:47 ` Andi Kleen
2006-08-18 7:07 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17 22:17 ` David Chinner
2006-08-17 3:59 ` Neil Brown
2006-08-17 6:22 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 8:36 ` Jens Axboe
2006-08-17 13:21 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-17 15:30 ` Andrew Morton
2006-08-17 16:18 ` Trond Myklebust
2006-08-18 5:34 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
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