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From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Mattia Dongili <malattia@linux.it>,
	Robert Hancock <hancockr@shaw.ca>,
	Kernel development list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	USB development list <linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 (-mm2): ohci resume problem
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 23:47:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200609142347.16578.rjw@sisk.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0609141618450.6982-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Thursday, 14 September 2006 22:55, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2006, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> 
> > Well, sorry.  This test has been passed, but after a reboot it refused to
> > suspend just once giving the same messages that I've got from the kernel
> > with USB_SUSPEND set (the relevant dmesg output is attached).
> > 
> > > Then for the next stage, repeat the same tests but with  
> > > USB_SUSPEND set.
> 
> Okay, hang on, let's try to solve this first.
> 
> This actually is a completely different problem from what I've been
> attacking up to now, and we definitely should resolve it.  It's purely a
> question of the ohci-hcd driver, nothing (or very little) to do with
> usbcore or ehci-hcd or uhci-hcd.
> 
> I'm asking David to chime in, because this is his code and his driver.
> 
> Here's an explanation of the problem.  Basically it boils down to the way 
> ohci-hcd rolls its own root-hub autosuspend.  I'm referring to the call to 
> ohci_bus_suspend() near the end of ohci-hub.c:ohci_hub_status_data().
> Things go wrong because that call totally bypasses usbcore.  It's a 
> layering violation.
> 
> The corresponding root-hub autoresume code, i.e., the call to
> usb_hcd_resume_root_hub() in ohci-hcd.c:ohci_irq(), _does_ go through
> usbcore.  It fails for two reasons.  First, resume_root_hub does its job
> by queuing a call to usb_autoresume_device(), and when CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND
> isn't set that routine is a no-op.  Second, since usbcore was never
> notified when the root hub was suspended, the root hub's device state
> isn't USB_STATE_SUSPENED and the interface is still marked as active -- so
> even if usb_autoresume_device() did get called it wouldn't do anything.
> 
> As I see it, there are two ways to resolve the problem.  The easiest is to
> rip out the autosuspend stuff from ohci-hcd entirely.  When my generic
> autosuspend patches are accepted, the HCD-specific stuff won't be needed
> so much.  This has the disadvantage that the root hub will never get
> suspended if CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND isn't set.  On the other hand, this is how 
> ehci_hcd works already.

This isn't a big deal as far as I'm concerned, but I think that dependancy
will have to be reflected by some Kconfig rules (eg. if CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND
gets selected automatically if CONFIG_PM is set).

> The second way is to copy what I did in uhci-hcd.  There is a special
> "root hub is stopped" mode which kicks in only when no ports are
> connected.  It isn't a full-fledged suspend, in the sense that usbcore
> isn't notified -- just like what happens in ohci-hcd.  The difference is,
> since we know no devices are attached, the driver can go back to normal
> operation while in interrupt context.  It doesn't have to sleep because no
> attached devices means no TRSMRCY delay is needed and the controller's
> hardware can be reset directly.  As a result, the corresponding
> "auto-restart" code doesn't need to go through usbcore either and so
> usb_autoresume_device() never enters the picture.
> 
> I don't know if this is feasible with OHCI.  For now, I'll include a patch 
> that takes the first approach and disables the ohci-hcd autosuspend 
> entirely.  I think it will solve your problem above.

Yes it does.

Now I'm able to suspend/resume several times in a row with both
ohci and ehci hcds loaded all the time.  Thanks a lot!

Greetings,
Rafael


-- 
You never change things by fighting the existing reality.
		R. Buckminster Fuller

  reply	other threads:[~2006-09-14 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-08  8:13 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-09-08 11:49 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andy Whitcroft
2006-09-08 12:07 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Frederik Deweerdt
2006-09-08 12:16 ` [patch -mm] s390: fix save_stack_trace Heiko Carstens
2006-09-09 13:36   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-08 12:23 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 - x86_64-mm-lockdep-dont-force-framepointer.patch Heiko Carstens
2006-09-09 13:39   ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-11  8:45     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2006-09-08 14:26 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-08 20:44   ` [linux-usb-devel] 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Alan Stern
2006-09-08 22:57     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-11 22:08       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-12 14:28         ` Alan Stern
2006-09-12 17:22           ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-12 18:04             ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-12 20:10               ` Alan Stern
2006-09-13 17:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 12:07       ` [linux-usb-devel] 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 (-mm2): ohci resume problem Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 12:42         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 18:38           ` Alan Stern
2006-09-13 20:00             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 21:01               ` Alan Stern
2006-09-13 21:32                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 21:55                   ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 13:14                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 14:08                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 15:04                         ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 16:17                           ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 17:08                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 17:13                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 17:24                                 ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 17:22                               ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 17:35                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 18:28                                   ` Alan Stern
     [not found]                                     ` <200609142137.52066.rjw@sisk.pl>
2006-09-14 20:21                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-14 20:55                                       ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 21:47                                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki [this message]
2006-09-14 22:19                                           ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 16:48                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-13 20:38             ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-13 20:54               ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 20:19                 ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-14 20:25                   ` Alan Stern
2006-09-14 20:35                     ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-16 11:58                     ` Mattia Dongili
2006-09-16 14:31                       ` Alan Stern
2006-09-08 17:43 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Stefan Richter
2006-09-08 18:04   ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-09-08 18:36     ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Stefan Richter
2006-09-08 19:23 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-08 19:43   ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-09-08 20:01     ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Michal Piotrowski
2006-09-08 19:30 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 thunder7
2006-09-08 19:44   ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-09-09  9:04     ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 thunder7
2006-09-09 15:31       ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
2006-09-09 22:02         ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Jean Delvare
2006-09-10  6:30           ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 thunder7
2006-09-09  8:35 ` lockdep warning in check_flags() Frederik Deweerdt
2006-09-11  5:43   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-12 14:13     ` Frederik Deweerdt
2006-09-12 16:54       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-12 20:21         ` Frederik Deweerdt
     [not found] ` <4503DC64.9070007@free.fr>
2006-09-10  8:32   ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1: GPF loop on early boot Andi Kleen
2006-09-10 10:29     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-10 11:57     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-10 11:34       ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-10 13:26         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-10 13:55           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-10 14:02             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-10 16:33           ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-10 23:03             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  5:10               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  7:31                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  7:29                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  7:41                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  7:36                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  7:59                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  8:01                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  8:13                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  7:38                       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  7:56                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11  7:55                           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  5:21               ` Laurent Riffard
2006-09-11  5:18                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  5:25               ` [patch] i386-PDA, lockdep: fix %gs restore Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  5:41                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-11  5:48                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11  5:46                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11 16:35                   ` Laurent Riffard
2006-09-11  7:42                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11 19:33                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11 21:25                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11 20:20                 ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-11 21:37                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-11 20:48                     ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-10 12:36       ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1: GPF loop on early boot Laurent Riffard
2006-09-10 13:07         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-10 13:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-11 21:19 ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Mark Haverkamp
2006-09-11 22:16   ` 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 Andrew Morton
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     [not found] ` <fa.qTCpjei55lhk7BvMUo3JQy7hYT8@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found]   ` <fa.L0QDp0UiCRLE2HbZGTyQ/fbNwDU@ifi.uio.no>
2006-09-14 14:28     ` [linux-usb-devel] 2.6.18-rc6-mm1 (-mm2): ohci resume problem Robert Hancock
2006-09-14 15:23       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found] <fa.CoF5TlzZuzrQVRlWotoenffiTfo@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.d7LE5j2KeqaUO4bsZpo8y9R4gYc@ifi.uio.no>
2006-09-15  0:51   ` Robert Hancock

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