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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:59:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060921105959.a55efb5f.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0609210819170.4388@g5.osdl.org>

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT)
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006, Alan Cox wrote:
> > 
> > A suggestion from the department of evil ideas: Call even cycles
> > development odd ones stabilizing. Nothing gets into an odd one without a
> > review and linux-kernel signoff/ack ?
> 
> I don't think that's an evil idea, and in fact we've discussed it before. 
> I personally like it - right now we tend to have that "interminable series 
> of -rc<n>" (where <n> is 3..) before release, and I'd almost personally 
> prefer to just have a rule that is more along the lines of
> 
>  - 2.6.<odd> is "the big initial merges with all the obvious fixes to make 
>    it all work" (ie roughly the current -rc2 or perhaps -rc3).
> 
>  - 2.6.<even> is "no big merges, just careful fixes" (ie the current "real 
>    release")
> 
> Each would be ~3 weeks, leaving us with effectively the same real release 
> schedule, just a naming change.
> 
> That said, I think Andrew was of the opinion that it doesn't really _fix_ 
> anything, and he may well be right. What's the point of the odd release, 
> if the weekly snapshots after that are supposed to be strictly better than 
> it anyway?
> 
> So I think I may like it just because it _seems_ to combine the good 
> features of both the old naming scheme and the current one, but I suspect 
> Andrew may be right in that it doesn't _really_ change anything, deep 
> down.
> 

Again, before we can implement anything we should describe what problem we are
actually trying to solve here.

Jeff: "I want faster release cycles because <no reason given>"

Me: "I want less bugs"

Anyone else?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-09-21 18:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-20 20:54 Andrew Morton
2006-09-20 21:08 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-20 21:42 ` Badari Pulavarty
2006-09-20 21:53 ` USB: fix autosuspend-autoresume with CONFIGRe: " Jiri Kosina
2006-09-20 22:09   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-20 22:41     ` Greg KH
2006-09-20 21:55 ` Autofs4 breakage (was 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Trond Myklebust
2006-09-20 22:13   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21  3:39   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 23:25     ` Trond Myklebust
2006-09-22 15:55       ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-26  4:10   ` Ian Kent
2006-09-21  0:09 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21  0:22   ` ZONE_DMA (was: Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Andrew Morton
2006-09-21  0:31     ` Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  1:03       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-21 15:59         ` James Bottomley
2006-09-21  0:50     ` ZONE_DMA Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21  1:10       ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  1:23         ` ZONE_DMA Martin J. Bligh
2006-09-21 15:58           ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 16:57             ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-21 17:54               ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21 23:15                 ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-22  2:59                   ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 17:21                     ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 17:39                       ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:08                         ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 18:26                           ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:32                             ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 18:39                               ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 18:40                                 ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 19:06                                   ` ZONE_DMA Jesse Barnes
2006-09-22 19:07                                     ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-22 17:35                     ` ZONE_DMA Martin Bligh
2006-09-22 17:37                       ` ZONE_DMA Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  0:40   ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Christoph Lameter
2006-09-21  2:28 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans (NTP changes) john stultz
2006-09-21  2:40   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 10:24   ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-25 16:50     ` john stultz
2006-09-25 17:04       ` Ray Lee
2006-09-25 17:38         ` Roman Zippel
2006-09-21  4:22 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21  5:07   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21  5:23     ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21  9:12       ` Alan Cox
2006-09-21  6:36     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21  6:48       ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 11:10         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-22 13:16         ` release cycle (Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Pavel Machek
2006-09-21  9:16     ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Alan Cox
2006-09-21 10:55       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-21 15:25       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21 15:50         ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-21 17:59         ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-09-21 18:20           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 18:22           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-21 18:33             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 18:55               ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-21 19:46               ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-21 20:37                 ` Diego Calleja
2006-09-21 21:35                   ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-21 20:38                 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 20:49                   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-09-21 21:33             ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-21 21:33               ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-21 21:52                 ` David Miller
2006-09-21 22:05                   ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 22:44                     ` David Miller
2006-09-22  8:35                     ` Russell King
2006-09-22 15:48                       ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 16:21                         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-09-22 20:08                           ` Roland Dreier
2006-09-22 20:22                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-23  8:29                               ` Ryan Anderson
2006-09-24  7:48                           ` Lennert Buytenhek
2006-09-24  9:20                             ` Russell King
     [not found]                               ` <20060924142353.6c725128.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 18:23                                 ` Sean
2006-09-24 22:34                                   ` Stefan Richter
     [not found]                                     ` <20060924190758.132c0008.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 23:07                                       ` Sean
2006-09-24 23:09                                 ` Russell King
     [not found]                                   ` <20060924192308.ef60880a.seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
2006-09-24 23:23                                     ` Sean
2006-09-25  0:48                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-10-11 14:09                                         ` Pierre Ossman
2006-09-24 19:38                               ` Mike Galbraith
2006-09-22 16:24                         ` Alan Cox
2006-09-22 16:08                           ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 16:29                         ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-22 17:09                           ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 17:11                           ` Dave Jones
2006-09-22 18:26                             ` Jeff Garzik
2006-09-22 18:26                         ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-24  6:33                           ` Lennert Buytenhek
2006-09-22  1:03                 ` Bill Davidsen
2006-09-24 18:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-25  3:07               ` Nick Piggin
2006-09-25 11:53                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-25 18:57                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-09-22  6:33           ` Andi Kleen
2006-09-23  8:06   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-23  9:52     ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-21 13:14 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-21 17:35   ` Andrew Morton
2006-09-22 13:06   ` Pavel Machek
2006-09-22 19:01     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-22 20:29       ` hires timer patchset [was Re: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans] Bill Rugolsky Jr.
2006-09-23 11:07       ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Pavel Machek
2006-09-22 20:12     ` Dave Jones
2006-09-21 14:04 ` Apple Motion Sensor (was: 2.6.19 -mm merge plans) Michael Hanselmann
     [not found] ` <20060921234637.GA9742@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-21 23:46   ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Fengguang Wu
2006-09-21 23:59     ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]       ` <20060922003223.GA9952@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-22  0:32         ` Fengguang Wu
2006-09-23 14:48           ` Gene Heskett
     [not found]             ` <20060924024239.GA11671@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
2006-09-24  2:42               ` Fengguang Wu
2006-09-24 14:25           ` Diego Calleja
2006-09-22  9:24 ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 10:10   ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 10:42     ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-09-22 11:20       ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 14:48     ` Randy.Dunlap
2006-09-23 10:44   ` David Woodhouse
2006-09-22 12:32 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans: AVR32 Haavard Skinnemoen
2006-09-22 14:42 ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans Christoph Hellwig
2006-09-22 16:03   ` 2.6.19 -mm merge plans (ecryptfs) Andrew Morton
2006-09-22 16:53     ` Michael Halcrow
2006-09-25 14:59 ` [PATCH -mm updated] PCMCIA: Add few IDs into ide-cs Marcin Juszkiewicz
2006-09-25 15:48   ` Alan Cox
2006-09-22  2:00 2.6.19 -mm merge plans linux

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