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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk, matthew@wil.cx,
	val_henson@linux.intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	gregkh@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] [PCI] Check that MWI bit really did get set
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:18:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061015161834.f96a0761.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200610151545.59477.david-b@pacbell.net>

On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 15:45:58 -0700
David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:

> > In that case its interface is misdesigned, because it doesn't discriminate
> > between "yes-it-does/no-it-doesn't" (which we don't want to report, because
> > either is expected and legitimate) and "something screwed up", which we do
> > want to report, because it is always unexpected.
> 
> You mis-understand.  It's completely legit for the driver not to care.
> 
> I agree that set_mwo() should set MWI if possible, and fail cleanly
> if it couldn't (for whatever reason).  Thing is, choosing to treat
> that as an error must be the _driver's_ choice ... it'd be wrong to force
> that policy into the _interface_ by forcing must_check etc.

No.  If pci_set_mwi() detects an unexpected error then the driver should
take some action: report it, recover from it, fail to load, etc.  If the
driver fails to do any of this then it's a buggy driver.

You, the driver author _do not know_ what pci_set_mwi() does at present, on
all platforms, nor do you know what it does in the future.  For you the
driver author to make assumptions about what's happening inside
pci_set_mwi() is a layering violation.  Maybe the bridge got hot-unplugged.
 Maybe the attempt to set MWI caused some synchronous PCI error.  For
example, take a look at the various implementations of pci_ops.read()
around the place - various of them can fail for various reasons.  

Now it could be that an appropriate solution is to make pci_set_mwi()
return only 0 or 1, and to generate a warning from within pci_set_mwi()
if some unexpected error happens.  In which case it is legitimate for
callers to not check for errors.

This is not a terribly important issue, and it is far from the worst case
of missed error-checking which we have in there. 

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-15 23:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-10-06 19:05 Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-06 19:05 ` [PATCH 2/2] [TULIP] Check the return value from pci_set_mwi() Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-06 19:15   ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-06 19:28     ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-06 19:59       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-07  5:34         ` Grant Grundler
2006-10-07 14:44           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-10-06 19:16 ` [PATCH 1/2] [PCI] Check that MWI bit really did get set Jeff Garzik
2006-10-14  4:41 ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-14  5:21   ` Greg KH
2006-10-14 14:02   ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-14 20:48     ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-15  3:20       ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-15  6:53         ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-15 13:54           ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-15 17:47             ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-15  7:08         ` [Bulk] " David Brownell
2006-10-15 13:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-15 14:21           ` Alan Cox
2006-10-15 13:57             ` Matthew Wilcox
2006-10-15 17:45               ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-15 19:16                 ` David Brownell
2006-10-15 19:34                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-15 22:45                     ` David Brownell
2006-10-15 23:18                       ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-10-16  0:02                         ` Alan Cox
2006-10-15 23:44                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-16  0:44                             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-16  1:10                               ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-16  2:07                                 ` David Brownell
2006-10-16 10:58                                 ` Alan Cox
2006-10-16 11:02                             ` Alan Cox
2006-10-16  0:16                         ` David Brownell
2006-10-16  0:31                           ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-16 10:59                           ` Alan Cox
2006-10-15 21:52                 ` [Bulk] " Alan Cox
2006-10-16  0:00                 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-16  0:15                   ` Andrew Morton
2006-10-16  0:21                   ` David Brownell

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