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From: Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Dave Jones <davej@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gautham Shenoy <ego@in.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Remove hotplug cpu crap from cpufreq.
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 00:34:50 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061102190450.GB23489@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061101161723.f132d208.akpm@osdl.org>

Andrew,

On Wed, Nov 01, 2006 at 04:17:23PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 15:09:52 -0800 (PST)
> Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org> wrote:
> 
> Gautham's work is "add lots of complex machinery so cpufreq's existing crap
> works as it was supposed to".  We end up with complex machinery as well as
> crappy cpufreq.
> 
> The alternative is to rip all that stuff out of cpufreq and then go back
> and reimplement cpufreq cpu-hotplug safety from scratch.

No matter what we do with cpufreq, cpufreq needs to protect itself against 
the cpu going away. I am not too confident about the long term viability of the
implicit callback order-based locking. Sooner or later, someone
will add another complex per-cpu subsystem with calls to another
per-cpu subsystem and will violate locking order between the two
subsystems.

IMO, the right thing to do would be to convert lock_cpu_hotplug() to
a get_cpu_hotplug()/put_cpu_hotplug() type semantics and use a more
scalable implementation underneath (as opposed to a global
semaphore/mutex).

We have had some discussion on taking a look at the overall design
of the cpufreq and its cpu drivers themselves, but we need
solve this issue in the short term.

Thanks
Dipankar

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-11-02 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-01 22:59 Dave Jones
2006-11-01 23:09 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-01 23:21   ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-02  7:33     ` Martin Lorenz
2006-11-01 23:09 ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-01 23:32   ` Dave Jones
2006-11-02 18:46     ` Dipankar Sarma
2006-11-02  0:17   ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-02  4:27     ` Gautham R Shenoy
2006-11-02 19:04     ` Dipankar Sarma [this message]
2006-11-02 19:30       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-11-02 21:40         ` Dipankar Sarma

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