From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
Alasdair G Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
Srinivasa DS <srinivasa@in.ibm.com>,
Nigel Cunningham <nigel@suspend2.net>,
David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.19 5/5] fs: freeze_bdev with semaphore not mutex
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 00:32:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061109233258.GH2616@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061109232438.GS30653@agk.surrey.redhat.com>
Hi!
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2006 at 12:11:46AM +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > ? Not sure if I quite understand, but if dm breaks sync... something
> > is teribly wrong with dm. And we do simple sys_sync()... so I do not
> > think we have a problem.
>
> If you want to handle arbitrary kernel state, you might have a device-mapper
> device somewhere lower down the stack of devices that is queueing any I/O
> that reaches it. So anything waiting for I/O completion will wait until
> the dm process that suspended that device has finished whatever it is doing
> - and that might be a quick thing carried out by a userspace lvm tool, or
> a long thing carried out by an administrator using dmsetup.
>
> I'm guessing you need a way of detecting such state lower down the stack
> then optionally either aborting the operation telling the user it can't be
> done at present; waiting for however long it takes (perhaps for ever if
> the admin disappeared); or more probably skipping those devices on a
> 'best endeavours' basis.
Okay, so you claim that sys_sync can stall, waiting for administator?
In such case we can simply do one sys_sync() before we start freezing
userspace... or just more the only sys_sync() there. That way, admin
has chance to unlock his system.
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-09 23:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-11-07 18:34 Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 20:18 ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2006-11-07 20:22 ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:34 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 20:28 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-07 22:45 ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:00 ` Andrew Morton
2006-11-08 9:54 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-01-12 6:23 ` Srinivasa Ds
2007-01-12 10:16 ` Srinivasa Ds
2006-11-07 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:18 ` Eric Sandeen
2006-11-07 23:42 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 0:01 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 8:27 ` David Chinner
2006-11-08 14:25 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 14:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 15:25 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 23:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:49 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 0:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 3:33 ` David Chinner
2006-11-08 2:30 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-08 12:10 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-08 18:09 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 15:52 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 16:00 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 19:59 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 21:17 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 21:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 21:41 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 22:21 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-09 23:11 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-09 23:24 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-09 23:32 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2006-11-10 12:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 18:43 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-12 21:53 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-12 23:30 ` David Chinner
2006-11-13 16:11 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 18:50 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 19:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 20:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 20:23 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-15 21:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-15 22:49 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-16 23:20 ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-13 7:35 ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-10 0:57 ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:39 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-12 22:30 ` David Chinner
2006-11-12 22:43 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-13 5:43 ` David Chinner
2006-11-13 16:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-14 0:10 ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:23 ` David Chinner
2006-11-16 23:40 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-17 1:40 ` David Chinner
2006-11-17 15:13 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 0:54 ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:24 ` Alan Cox
2006-11-10 10:36 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-10 0:33 ` David Chinner
2006-11-10 10:38 ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-08 20:48 ` Nigel Cunningham
2006-11-08 21:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2006-11-07 23:23 ` Alasdair G Kergon
2006-11-07 23:39 ` Ingo Molnar
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