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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
	akpm@osdl.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:32:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061115173252.GA24062@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <455B4E2F.7040408@goop.org>


* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:

> > Eric's test shows a 5% slowdown. That's far from cheap.
> 
> It seems like an absurdly large difference.  PDA references aren't all 
> that common in the kernel; for the %gs prefix on PDA accesses to be 
> causing a 5% overall difference in a test like this means that the 
> prefixes would have to be costing hundreds or thousands of cycles, 
> which seems absurd.  Particularly since Eric's patch doesn't touch 
> head.S, so the %gs save/restore is still being executed.

i said this before: using segmentation tricks these days is /insane/. 
Segmentation is not for free, and it's not going to be cheap in the 
future. In fact, chances are that it will be /more/ expensive in the 
future, because sane OSs just make no use of them besides the trivial 
"they dont even exist" uses.

so /at a minimum/, as i suggested it before, the kernel's segment use 
should not overlap that of glibc's. I.e. the kernel should use %fs, not 
%gs.

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-15 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-12  7:35 i386 PDA patches use of %gs Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12  7:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-12  7:56   ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12  8:31     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 11:27     ` [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 11:32       ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:20         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:24           ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:46             ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 17:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:58                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:01                   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-21 11:38               ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 21:42                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-21 21:52                   ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-21 22:10                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-21 21:58                   ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 23:12                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:28           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:32             ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-11-15 17:59               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:05                 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:28                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:31                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:01             ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 18:24               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:06                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-17  0:24                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:52       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-28 23:12       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-29  9:30         ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-29  9:56           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13  1:00 ` i386 PDA patches use of %gs Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13  9:59   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-13 16:17     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:26       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:29         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:43           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:44             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:39         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:43           ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:49             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:49               ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 19:00                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:03                   ` Ingo Molnar

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