From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>, Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 18:32:52 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061115173252.GA24062@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <455B4E2F.7040408@goop.org>
* Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org> wrote:
> > Eric's test shows a 5% slowdown. That's far from cheap.
>
> It seems like an absurdly large difference. PDA references aren't all
> that common in the kernel; for the %gs prefix on PDA accesses to be
> causing a 5% overall difference in a test like this means that the
> prefixes would have to be costing hundreds or thousands of cycles,
> which seems absurd. Particularly since Eric's patch doesn't touch
> head.S, so the %gs save/restore is still being executed.
i said this before: using segmentation tricks these days is /insane/.
Segmentation is not for free, and it's not going to be cheap in the
future. In fact, chances are that it will be /more/ expensive in the
future, because sane OSs just make no use of them besides the trivial
"they dont even exist" uses.
so /at a minimum/, as i suggested it before, the kernel's segment use
should not overlap that of glibc's. I.e. the kernel should use %fs, not
%gs.
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-11-15 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-09-12 7:35 i386 PDA patches use of %gs Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12 7:48 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-12 7:56 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-09-12 8:31 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 11:27 ` [PATCH] i386-pda UP optimization Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 11:32 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:24 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-15 17:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 17:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 17:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-21 11:38 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 21:42 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-21 21:52 ` Andi Kleen
2006-11-21 22:10 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-21 21:58 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-21 23:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:32 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2006-11-15 17:59 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:05 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-15 18:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:01 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-15 18:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:06 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-17 0:24 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 17:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-28 23:12 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-29 9:30 ` Eric Dumazet
2006-11-29 9:56 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13 1:00 ` i386 PDA patches use of %gs Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-09-13 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-09-13 16:17 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:29 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:39 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 18:49 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 18:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-11-15 19:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-11-15 19:03 ` Ingo Molnar
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