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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
To: Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@timesys.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arjan <arjan@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Add do_not_call_when_idle option to timer and workqueue
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:11:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061121181114.b9d923bd.akpm@osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20061121162845.A24791@unix-os.sc.intel.com>

On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 16:28:45 -0800
Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com> wrote:

> 
> Add a new flag to timers to allow "Do not call when Idle" mode.
> Export this sort of soft timer over workqueues and use it in ondemand governor.
> 
> This patch avoids the periodic ondemand timer invocations in
> Dynamic Tick kernels.
> 
> This can be used in various other kernel timers that end up setting up
> unnecessary timers during idle.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>
> 
> Index: linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/include/linux/timer.h
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.19-rc-mm.orig/include/linux/timer.h	2006-11-13 15:06:26.000000000 -0800
> +++ linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/include/linux/timer.h	2006-11-13 16:01:03.000000000 -0800
> @@ -8,6 +8,8 @@
>  
>  struct tvec_t_base_s;
>  
> +#define TIMER_FLAG_NOT_IN_IDLE	(0x1)
> +
>  struct timer_list {
>  	struct list_head entry;
>  	unsigned long expires;
> @@ -16,6 +18,7 @@
>  	unsigned long data;
>  
>  	struct tvec_t_base_s *base;
> +	int	flags;
>  #ifdef CONFIG_TIMER_STATS

Adding a new field to the timer_list is somewhat of a hit - this is going
to make an awful lot of data structures a bit larger.  Some of which we
allocate a large number of.

I think we could justfy getting nasty and using the LSB of
timer_list.function for this..

>  	void *start_site;
>  	char start_comm[16];
> @@ -30,6 +33,7 @@
>  		.expires = (_expires),				\
>  		.data = (_data),				\
>  		.base = &boot_tvec_bases,			\
> +		.flags = 0,					\
>  	}
>  
>  #define DEFINE_TIMER(_name, _function, _expires, _data)		\
> Index: linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/include/linux/workqueue.h
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.19-rc-mm.orig/include/linux/workqueue.h	2006-11-13 15:06:26.000000000 -0800
> +++ linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/include/linux/workqueue.h	2006-11-13 16:01:03.000000000 -0800
> @@ -65,6 +65,8 @@
>  extern int FASTCALL(queue_delayed_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq, struct work_struct *work, unsigned long delay));
>  extern int queue_delayed_work_on(int cpu, struct workqueue_struct *wq,
>  	struct work_struct *work, unsigned long delay);
> +extern int queue_soft_delayed_work_on(int cpu, struct workqueue_struct *wq,
> +	struct work_struct *work, unsigned long delay);

I don't think that's a well-chosen name.  What does the "soft" mean?

Also, this is a new timer API capability, but it is only exposed via the
workqueue API, and then only via a part of it.

A complete implementation would expose the new capability via extensions to
the timer API, and would then (in a separate patch) convert the workqueue
API to use those extensions.  (And in fact the third patch would convert
cpufreq to use the new workqueue capabilities...)

>  extern void FASTCALL(flush_workqueue(struct workqueue_struct *wq));
>  
>  extern int FASTCALL(schedule_work(struct work_struct *work));
> Index: linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/kernel/timer.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.19-rc-mm.orig/kernel/timer.c	2006-11-13 15:06:26.000000000 -0800
> +++ linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/kernel/timer.c	2006-11-13 16:01:03.000000000 -0800
> @@ -639,6 +639,8 @@
>  	j = base->timer_jiffies & TVR_MASK;
>  	do {
>  		list_for_each_entry(nte, base->tv1.vec + j, entry) {
> +			if (nte->flags & TIMER_FLAG_NOT_IN_IDLE)
> +				continue;
>  			expires = nte->expires;
>  			found = nte;
>  			if (j < (base->timer_jiffies & TVR_MASK))
> Index: linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/kernel/workqueue.c
> ===================================================================
> --- linux-2.6.19-rc-mm.orig/kernel/workqueue.c	2006-11-13 15:06:26.000000000 -0800
> +++ linux-2.6.19-rc-mm/kernel/workqueue.c	2006-11-13 16:01:03.000000000 -0800
> @@ -196,6 +196,20 @@
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(queue_delayed_work_on);
>  
> +int queue_soft_delayed_work_on(int cpu, struct workqueue_struct *wq,
> +			struct work_struct *work, unsigned long delay)
> +{
> +	int ret;
> +	struct timer_list *timer = &work->timer;
> +	ret = queue_delayed_work_on(cpu, wq, work, delay);
> +	if (ret) {
> +		timer->flags |= TIMER_FLAG_NOT_IN_IDLE;
> +	}
> +	return ret;
> +}

See, here we have workqueue code poking around in timer_list internals.

Also, it's weird and conceivably racy to go altering the timer _after_
scheduling the work.  What happens if the timer goes off before we set the
bit?  And suppose the workqueue callback function frees the storage at
*timer?

All these problems will go away if the APIs are done fully, and correctly.



  reply	other threads:[~2006-11-22  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-11-22  0:28 Venkatesh Pallipadi
2006-11-22  2:11 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2006-11-22  6:38   ` Avi Kivity
2006-11-22  8:50     ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-11-22 17:13   ` Venkatesh Pallipadi
2006-11-22 20:02     ` Andrew Morton

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