From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966481AbWKYMeG (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:34:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S966503AbWKYMeF (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:34:05 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:65291 "EHLO spitz.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S966481AbWKYMeB (ORCPT ); Sat, 25 Nov 2006 07:34:01 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2006 22:41:30 +0000 From: Pavel Machek To: Al Boldi Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch] PM: suspend/resume debugging should depend on Message-ID: <20061124224130.GA4782@ucw.cz> References: <200611192130.11542.a1426z@gawab.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200611192130.11542.a1426z@gawab.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sun 19-11-06 21:30:11, Al Boldi wrote: > Mike Galbraith wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 09:33 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Chuck Ebbert wrote: > > > > When doing 'make oldconfig' we should ask about suspend/resume > > > > debug features when SOFTWARE_SUSPEND is not enabled. > > > > > > That's wrong. > > > > > > I never use SOFTWARE_SUSPEND, and I think the whole concept is totally > > > broken. > > > > > > Sane people use suspend-to-ram, and that's when you need the suspend and > > > resume debugging. > > > > Here I am wishing I had the _opportunity_ to be sane. With my ATI X850 > > AGP card, I have no choices except swsusp or reboot. > > You make it sound like suspend-to-ram is dependent on a correct display > adapter to work; it doesn't even work on a machine without a display > adapter. > > see http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7037 Well, on 'normal' machines, video card is the most common problem. Pavel -- Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.