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From: Sergey Vlasov <vsu@altlinux.ru>
To: Bauke Jan Douma <bjdouma@xs4all.nl>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@stusta.de>,
	gregkh@suse.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pci@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz,
	Daniel Ritz <daniel.ritz@gmx.ch>, Daniel Drake <dsd@gentoo.org>,
	Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bjorn.helgaas@hp.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>, Brice Goglin <brice@myri.com>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
	Tomasz Koprowski <tomek@koprowski.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: PCI quirks update for 2.6.16
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 21:32:17 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061207183217.GA7865@procyon.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45784F0C.7040005@xs4all.nl>

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On Thu, Dec 07, 2006 at 06:27:40PM +0100, Bauke Jan Douma wrote:
> Sergey Vlasov wrote on 07-12-06 14:53:
> >On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 14:24:30 +0100 Adrian Bunk wrote:
> >
> >>While checking how to fix the VIA quirk regressions for several users
> >>introduced into -stable in 2.6.16.17, I started looking through all
> >>drivers/pci/quirks.c updates up to both -stable and 2.6.19.
> >>
> [snip]
> >>
> >>Bauke Jan Douma (1):
> >>      PCI: quirk for asus a8v and a8v delux motherboards
> >
> >This quirk will cause breakage for people who used an external PCI
> >soundcard with these boards - the builtin sound chip which was
> >invisible before may become the first audio device.
> 
> I'm afraid I don't understand the problem described here, when
> ALSA can assign any arbitrary index number of a user's choice
> to cards that are detected.

The problem is that -stable patches should not introduce regression.
And if this patch would be included in the next -stable release,
people who upgrade to this release may get unexpected changes of sound
cards indexes.  This may be OK for a new 2.6.x release, but not for a
new 2.6.16.y.

> Indeed, on my system (an A8V Deluxe motherboard, with this
> quirk active), my first soundcard (given index=0) is an offboard
> Creative SB Live, and the onboard card I have assigned index=1.

Yes, now I have exactly the same setup.  But before this patch I did
not have any index=N assignments in my configuration; after the patch
I needed to add them to get my system working as before.

> I for one need this quirk to get both soundcards at all (which
> I need) -- no matter what indexing order.

I don't question the need for this patch in mainline; however, it does
not seem to be suitable for -stable.

> >It also enables the MC97 device, which does not really work (there is
> >no MC97 codec attached to the controller at least on A8V Deluxe; I'm
> >not sure if there is some other variant of this board which has MC97,
> >but it seems unlikely).
> 
> This one can be disabled separate of the AC97 -- let me get back
> on that.  I, for one (however much that is), don't need it either.

Currently I get:

VIA 82xx Modem: probe of 0000:00:11.6 failed with error -13

on every boot (and snd_via82xx_modem module in memory).  Not a grave
bug, but not a good thing either (and another reason for not adding
this patch to 2.6.16.y).

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  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-07 18:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-07 13:24 Adrian Bunk
2006-12-07 13:53 ` Sergey Vlasov
2006-12-07 17:27   ` Bauke Jan Douma
2006-12-07 18:32     ` Sergey Vlasov [this message]
2006-12-08 15:34       ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-07 14:38 ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-07 14:57   ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-07 16:37     ` Alan Cox
2006-12-10  4:09   ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-12-10 16:00     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-10 16:22       ` Daniel Drake
2006-12-10 22:33         ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-10 22:39           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 22:49             ` Chris Wedgwood
2006-12-11  1:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-10 23:47             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-11  1:23               ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-11 12:52                 ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-19  6:08               ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-12-11  1:42       ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-12-11 12:41         ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-11 12:48           ` Sergio Monteiro Basto
2006-12-11 13:01             ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-07 19:54 ` Jean Delvare
2006-12-07 20:45   ` Tomek Koprowski
2006-12-08 15:42     ` Adrian Bunk
2006-12-08 16:11 ` RFC: PCI quirks update for 2.6.16 (v2) Adrian Bunk
2006-12-08 21:02 ` RFC: PCI quirks update for 2.6.16 Brice Goglin

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