From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S935686AbWLIIRG (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Dec 2006 03:17:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S935728AbWLIIRF (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Dec 2006 03:17:05 -0500 Received: from smtp-out001.kontent.com ([81.88.40.215]:43482 "EHLO smtp-out.kontent.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S935686AbWLIIRE convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Sat, 9 Dec 2006 03:17:04 -0500 From: Oliver Neukum To: Ben Nizette Subject: Re: single bit errors on files stored on USB-HDDs via USB2/usb_storage Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 09:18:26 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: Matthias Schniedermeyer , Stefan Richter , Robert Hancock , linux-kernel , DervishD References: <200612081201.36789.oliver@neukum.org> <457A5384.9070806@iinet.net.au> In-Reply-To: <457A5384.9070806@iinet.net.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200612090918.26508.oliver@neukum.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am Samstag, 9. Dezember 2006 07:11 schrieb Ben Nizette: > >>> Also, you mentioned that the corruption occurs systematically on certain > >>> byte patterns. Therefore it's certainly not related to the cables. > >> It'd guess that too, but who can that say for sure. :-| > > > > You may have a bit pattern that stresses the controllers and suddenly > > a marginal cable may matter. > > The errors occur in strings of 0xFFs. From the USB standard: > > a “1” is represented by no change in level and a “0” is represented by a > change in level Yes, plus added stuffing bits. > so this error-infested bytes are effectively long, quiet times on the > wire. I would have thought this would be the _least_ stressful time for > the controllers but maybe they are also more susceptible to noise during > this period. The longer you don't change the voltage the likelier are reciever and transmitter to get out of sync. Regards Oliver