mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: miklos@szeredi.hu
Cc: rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk, torvalds@osdl.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@osdl.org
Subject: Re: fuse, get_user_pages, flush_anon_page, aliasing caches and all that again
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:45:33 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061231.014533.71091424.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1H0wiB-0003iu-00@dorka.pomaz.szeredi.hu>

From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 10:10:35 +0100

> > Therefore, FUSE probably could have been fixed by judicious use
> > of copy_{to,from}_user_page() calls instead of adding this new
> > ad-hoc flush_anon_page() thing.
> 
> Probably, but I don't think either interface is perfect.
> copy_*_user_page() will double flush the user mapping
> (get_user_pages() already does a flush_dcache_page()).  Actually
> nothing except ptrace uses the copy_*_user_page() interface even
> though there are many uses of get_user_pages().
> 
> What I think get_user_pages() really needs is a single operation that
> 
>   - flushes the virtual address view
>   - flushes the kernel view
> 
> regardles whether the page is anonymous or file backed.

I guess part of the problem is that flush_dcache_page() could have
better defined semantics.

Sparc64 never notices this precisely because it can flush by physical
page and thus it can just do the flush on anonymous pages
synchronously very cheaply.

ARM probably avoids it because it would be very expensive since it
needs to flush by virtual address, so in the best case it would need
to walk the RMAP mapping list and hit every user mapping, then flush
again for the kernel side virtual address of the direct mapping to
that physical page too.

It is certainly the case that all of this stuff could be done in
a much cleaner manner.  Although it's really hard for me to get
excited by this and do the work since sparc64 already works :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2006-12-31  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-12-21 15:26 Russell King
2006-12-21 15:53 ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-21 16:57   ` Russell King
2006-12-21 17:51     ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-21 21:04       ` Jan Engelhardt
2006-12-21 21:30         ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-01 15:04     ` James Bottomley
2006-12-21 17:17   ` Russell King
2006-12-21 17:55     ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-21 18:11       ` Russell King
2006-12-21 18:30         ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-21 18:55           ` Russell King
2006-12-21 19:05             ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-21 23:51               ` Randolph Chung
2006-12-22  8:43                 ` Russell King
2006-12-22 14:45                   ` Randolph Chung
2006-12-30 16:39     ` Russell King
2006-12-30 16:50       ` Russell King
2006-12-30 18:26         ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-30 22:46           ` Russell King
2006-12-31  5:23             ` David Miller
2006-12-31  9:10               ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-31  9:45                 ` David Miller [this message]
2006-12-31  9:23               ` Russell King
2006-12-31  9:27                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-31  9:47                   ` David Miller
2006-12-31 10:00                     ` Russell King
2006-12-31 10:04                       ` David Miller
2006-12-31 12:24                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2006-12-31 17:37                         ` Russell King
2007-01-01 22:15                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2007-01-01 23:45                             ` Russell King
2007-01-02 19:40                               ` Dan Williams
2007-01-02 22:53                               ` James Bottomley
2007-01-02 23:19                                 ` David Miller
2007-01-02 23:34                                   ` James Bottomley
2007-01-03  0:20                                     ` David Miller
2007-01-03 14:16                                       ` Russell King
2007-01-03 15:00                                         ` James Bottomley
2007-01-03 15:09                                           ` Russell King
2007-01-07 16:09                                             ` James Bottomley
2007-01-07 16:30                                               ` Russell King
2006-12-31 20:40                         ` David Miller
2006-12-31 20:58                           ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-31 21:12                             ` David Miller
2007-01-01 16:44                               ` James Bottomley
2007-01-01 23:04                                 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:23                                   ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                     ` <1167669252.5302.57.camel@mulgrave.il.steeleye.com>
2007-01-01 23:01                       ` David Miller
2007-01-01 23:17                         ` Russell King
2006-12-31  9:55                   ` Russell King
2006-12-31  9:46                 ` David Miller
2007-01-01 14:35           ` James Bottomley
2007-01-01 16:21             ` Russell King
2006-12-30 18:21       ` Linus Torvalds
2006-12-21 16:29 ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-12-21 17:35   ` Russell King

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20061231.014533.71091424.davem@davemloft.net \
    --to=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=akpm@osdl.org \
    --cc=linux-arch@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=miklos@szeredi.hu \
    --cc=rmk+lkml@arm.linux.org.uk \
    --cc=torvalds@osdl.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®