From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@polymtl.ca>
To: Nick Piggin <nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
ltt-dev@shafik.org, systemtap@sources.redhat.com,
Douglas Niehaus <niehaus@eecs.ku.edu>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/05] Linux Kernel Markers, non optimised architectures
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 12:15:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070112171512.GB2888@Krystal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45A71827.6020300@yahoo.com.au>
* Nick Piggin (nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au) wrote:
> Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >* Nick Piggin (nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au) wrote:
> >
> >>Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>+#define MARK(name, format, args...) \
> >>>+ do { \
> >>>+ static marker_probe_func *__mark_call_##name = \
> >>>+ __mark_empty_function; \
> >>>+ volatile static char __marker_enable_##name = 0; \
> >>>+ static const struct __mark_marker_c __mark_c_##name \
> >>>+ __attribute__((section(".markers.c"))) = \
> >>>+ { #name, &__mark_call_##name, format } ; \
> >>>+ static const struct __mark_marker __mark_##name \
> >>>+ __attribute__((section(".markers"))) = \
> >>>+ { &__mark_c_##name, &__marker_enable_##name } ; \
> >>>+ asm volatile ( "" : : "i" (&__mark_##name)); \
> >>>+ __mark_check_format(format, ## args); \
> >>>+ if (unlikely(__marker_enable_##name)) { \
> >>>+ preempt_disable(); \
> >>>+ (*__mark_call_##name)(format, ## args); \
> >>>+ preempt_enable_no_resched(); \
> >>
> >>Why not just preempt_enable() here?
> >>
> >
> >
> >Because the preempt_enable() macro contains preempt_check_resched(), which
> >may call preempt_schedule() which leads us to a call to schedule().
> >Therefore,
> >all those very interesting scheduler functions would cause an infinite
> >recursive scheduler call if we marked schedule() and used preempt_enable()
> >in
> >the marker.
>
> The vast majority of schedule() has preempt turned off, so that shouldn't
> be a problem, if you provide a comment.
>
> >The primary goal for the markers (and the probes that attaches to them) is
> >to
> >have the fewest side-effects possible : any kernel method called from an
> >instrumentation site adds this precise kernel method to the "cannot be
> >instrumented" list, which I want to keep as small possible.
>
> OK, well one problem is that it can cause a resched event to be lost, so
> you might say it has more side-effects without checking resched.
>
I agree : this a side-effect I pointed out in my LTTng presentation last
summer at OLS.
Here is a quick idea of the potentially problematic instrumentation points
(i386 example) :
- with the task_rq_lock held (therefore preemption is disabled, so it's not a
problem)
sched.c wait_task_inactive()
sched.c try_to_wake_up()
sched.c wake_up_new_task()
sched.c sched_migrate_task()
sched.c schedule() after prepare_task_switch call, before context_switch call.
Surrounded by preempt_disable(), preempt_enable_no_resched(), should be ok.
- IRQs : irq_enter()/irq_exit() calls in do_IRQ makes sure that the
preempt_count is incremented. irq_enter() is called with interrupts still
disabled.
kernel/irq/handle.c handle_IRQ_event()
- NMIs : nmi_enter() -> irq_enter() -> add_preempt_count(HARDIRQ_OFFSET) called
with interrupts still disabled.
Therefore, preemption is disabled within trace points in do_nmi.
- traps : GPF, do_trap, do_page_fault, do_debug, spurious_interrupt,
math_emulate.
It is not uncommon for these trap handlers to reenable interrupts very soon.
They do not increment the preemption count.
Therefore, preemption must be expected when these handlers run : we cannot
rely of the fact that hard IRQs would be disabled to prevent the scheduler
from running, as markers becomes a new source of scheduler events.
- local_irq_enable()/local_irq_disable() :
It can call trace_hardirqs_on()/trace_hardirqs_off(). These macros are
sprinkled in _every_ possible context cited above, from trap handlers to
preemptible code.
Other contexts or code location are not a problem (process context, softirq).
If we are sure that we expect calls to preempt_schedule() from each of these
contexts, then it's ok to put preempt_enable(). It is important to note that a
marker would then act as a source of scheduler events in code paths where
disabling interrupts is expected to disable the scheduler.
Mathieu
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-01-12 17:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-01-12 0:02 [PATCH 00/05] Linux Kernel Markers Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 0:02 ` [PATCH 01/05] Linux Kernel Markers : Kconfig menus Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 0:02 ` [PATCH 02/05] Linux Kernel Markers, architecture independant code Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 0:02 ` [PATCH 03/05] Linux Kernel Markers : powerpc optimisation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 0:02 ` [PATCH 04/05] Linux Kernel Markers : i386 optimisation Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 0:02 ` [PATCH 05/05] Linux Kernel Markers, non optimised architectures Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 4:39 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-12 5:00 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 5:09 ` Nick Piggin
2007-01-12 17:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2007-01-12 17:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2007-01-12 18:23 ` [PATCH 05/05] update - " Mathieu Desnoyers
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