From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S934013AbXCFKb4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:31:56 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S934015AbXCFKb4 (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:31:56 -0500 Received: from mx2.mail.elte.hu ([157.181.151.9]:49669 "EHLO mx2.mail.elte.hu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S934013AbXCFKbz (ORCPT ); Tue, 6 Mar 2007 05:31:55 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2007 11:31:37 +0100 From: Ingo Molnar To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: Avi Kivity , Jeremy Fitzhardinge , virtualization , Jan Beulich , Andrew Morton , Linus Torvalds , Roland McGrath , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Xen & VMI? Message-ID: <20070306103137.GB7478@elte.hu> References: <45ECBDDC.8080708@vmware.com> <45ECC076.9050209@goop.org> <45ECC91D.1020809@vmware.com> <45ECC9B6.1060209@goop.org> <20070306081909.GA9331@elte.hu> <45ED2837.3020108@suse.de> <20070306085222.GA17002@elte.hu> <45ED3121.8090308@suse.de> <45ED3A8D.9090906@argo.co.il> <45ED4117.40701@suse.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <45ED4117.40701@suse.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i X-ELTE-VirusStatus: clean X-ELTE-SpamScore: -2.0 X-ELTE-SpamLevel: X-ELTE-SpamCheck: no X-ELTE-SpamVersion: ELTE 2.0 X-ELTE-SpamCheck-Details: score=-2.0 required=5.9 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=no SpamAssassin version=3.0.3 -2.0 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org * Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Thanks. That is actually the point I want make: although it is > *possible* to do that via VMI ROM, doing that using paravirt_ops is > *better* (no matter whenever the hypervisor is xen or kvm). [...] but paravirt_ops is not an ABI ... nor will it ever become one. So the fact remains: the extra ABIs towards external hypervisors are quite an issue. > [...] The very same discussion a couple months ago came to exactly > that conclusion. uhm, that discussion mostly only involved people interested in external hypervisors, not those poor souls who have to fix up the mess in the end within Linux ;-) [ I am very sure all foxes would come to the happy conclusion that there is no need for any stinkin' lock on the barn ;-) ] Ingo