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From: Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Zachary Amsden <zach@vmware.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Andi Kleen <ak@suse.de>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: ABI coupling to hypervisors via CONFIG_PARAVIRT
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 13:27:14 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070309212714.GU10574@sequoia.sous-sol.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070309210430.GA14905@elte.hu>

* Ingo Molnar (mingo@elte.hu) wrote:
> ( if there is no backwards compatibility promise then i have zero
>   complaints: then paravirt_ops + the hypercall just becomes another API
>   internal to Linux that we can improve at will. But that is not
>   realistic: if we provide CONFIG_VMI today, people will expect to have
>   CONFIG_VMI in the future too. )

This was the whole reason we didn't adopt VMI directly.  Instead,
preferring an kernel internal API, pv_ops, that can adopt naturally
as the kernel changes, and it is the pv_ops client code's (or backend
as it is also referred to) responsibility to do whatever is necessary
to map back to the hypervisor's ABI.  The goal was explicitly to keep
things internal fluid as usual.  As I said before, no matter how you
slice it there's glue code somewhere to deal with compatibilities.
And it's always been the virtualization platform's responsibility to
deal with the changes.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-03-09 21:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-09 18:02 Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 18:28 ` Andi Kleen
2007-03-09 18:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 19:24   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 19:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 20:12       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:05         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 21:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 21:36           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:40             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:27             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-03-09 22:50               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:07               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09 23:10             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:38               ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-09 21:04       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:27         ` Chris Wright [this message]
2007-03-09 21:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 21:59             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:12               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:30                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 22:10             ` Chris Wright
2007-03-09 22:24               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:36                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-03-09 23:38                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 22:46                 ` Chris Wright
2007-03-09 23:02                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-09 23:13                 ` Rik van Riel
2007-03-09 20:50     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-03-09 22:50       ` Lee Revell
2007-03-14  8:41         ` alsa was " Pavel Machek
2007-03-14 15:59           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2007-03-15  9:03             ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-15  9:10               ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-15  9:23                 ` Zachary Amsden
2007-03-15  9:32                   ` Pavel Machek
2007-03-09 19:00 ` Chris Wright

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