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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>
Cc: Kyle Moffett <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	herbert.xu@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	hch@infradead.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation [try #2]
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:04:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070319130428.4b645207@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2578.1174305403@redhat.com>

> message transmission.  You yourself defined RDM to be a datagram service.
> RxRPC is not, in my opinion, a datagram service, and neither is it a stream
> service.

Message is what I should have said.

> Interestingly, searching for SOCK_RDM definitions with google shows there's
> some disagreement as to what it represents.  Some seem to thing it's connection
> oriented and some that it's connectionless, and some seem to think it's
> ordered, and some not.

Which is just fine, does it need to be one or the other. SOCK_DGRAM an be
both connection oriented or connectionless.

> 
> > > independent and possibly simultaneous RxRPC calls.  From the digging  
> > > around that I did in the kernel socket code a while ago I don't see a  
> > > cleaner way of implementing it than a new SOCK_RXRPC.
> 
> Well, I suggest SOCK_RPC, not SOCK_RXRPC.  There's no particular reason such a
> flow type has to be limited to RxRPC.

Other RPC types use normal socket types.

> I'd say that that precludes applicability on two points: firstly, RxRPC is not
> a datagram layer by the definition I provided in a previous email; and
> secondly, RxRPC *does* provide some ordering guarantees.

So you want SOCK_SEQPACKET perhaps then ?

> > What does AIX do out of interest ?
> 
> I've no way to find out what AIX does, but I suspect it simply doesn't.

Perhaps someone with AIX boxes around (say @ibm.com) could answer ?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-03-19 12:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-16 15:07 [PATCH 3/5] AF_RXRPC: Make it possible to merely try to cancel timers and delayed work " Alan Cox
2007-03-16 12:50 ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation " David Howells
2007-03-16 12:50   ` [PATCH 1/5] AF_RXRPC: Add blkcipher accessors for using kernel data directly " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 13:57     ` David Howells
2007-03-16 14:19       ` David Howells
2007-03-16 15:12       ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 12:50   ` [PATCH 2/5] AF_RXRPC: Move generic skbuff stuff from XFRM code to generic code " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:36     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 12:50   ` [PATCH 3/5] AF_RXRPC: Make it possible to merely try to cancel timers and delayed work " David Howells
2007-03-16 14:22     ` David Howells
2007-03-16 12:50   ` [PATCH 4/5] AF_RXRPC: Key facility changes for AF_RXRPC " David Howells
2007-03-16 13:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 14:15     ` David Howells
2007-03-16 13:40   ` [PATCH 0/5] [RFC] AF_RXRPC socket family implementation " Christoph Hellwig
2007-03-16 14:23   ` David Howells
2007-03-16 15:14     ` David Howells
2007-03-16 17:11       ` Alan Cox
2007-03-18  6:32         ` Kyle Moffett
2007-03-18 14:23           ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 11:56           ` David Howells
2007-03-19 12:59             ` David Howells
2007-03-19 15:29               ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 15:41               ` David Howells
2007-03-19 19:03                 ` Alan Cox
2007-03-19 19:19                 ` David Miller
2007-03-20 11:16                 ` David Howells
2007-03-20 13:16                 ` David Howells
2007-03-19 13:04             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2007-03-16 15:34     ` Alan Cox
2007-03-16 15:13   ` Alan Cox

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