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From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com>
To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Con Kolivas <kernel@kolivas.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	ck list <ck@vds.kolivas.org>
Subject: Re: Ten percent test
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 14:23:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200704071423.47790.gene.heskett@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070407180818.GB23861@elte.hu>

On Saturday 07 April 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>* Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To be expected, there are after all, only so many cpu cycles to go
>> around.  Here I sit, running 2.6.21-rc6 ATM, and since there is not an
>> SD patch that applies cleanly to rc6, I am back to typing half or more
>> of a sentence blind while I answer a posting such as this because of x
>> starvation while kmail is sorting incoming stuff.
>
>it would be really nice to analyze this. Does the latest -rt patch boot
>on your box so that we could trace this regression? (I can send you a
>standalone tracing patch if it doesnt.) IIRC you reported that one of
>the early patches from Mike made your system behave good (but still not
>as good as SD) - it would be nice to try a later patch too.

Yes it would be Ingo, but so far, none of the recent -rt patches has 
booted on this machine, the last one I tried a few days ago failing to 
find /dev/root, whatever the heck that is.

FWIW, I gave up on the rt stuffs 6 months or more ago when the regressions 
I was reporting weren't ever acknowledged.  I don't enjoy sitting through 
all these e2fsk's during the reboot just to have things I normally run in 
the background die, like tvtime, sitting there with some news channel 
muttering along in the background.  I was even ignored when I suggested 
it might be a dma problem, which I still think it could be.

Nevertheless, the patch you sent is building as I type, intermittently 
when the screen deigns to update so I can fix the spelling etc.

>basically, the current unfairness in the scheduler should be solved, one
>way or another. Good testcases were posted and there's progress.
>
>> (who the hell runs a 'make -j 200' or 50 while(1)'s in the real world?
>
>not many - and i dont think Mike tested any of these - Mike tested
>pretty low make -j values (Mike, can you confirm?).
>
>(I personally routinely run 'make -j 200' build jobs on my box [because
> it's the central server of a build cluster and high parallelism is
> needed to overcome network latencies], but i'm pretty special in that
> regard and i didnt use that workload as a test against any of these
> schedulers.)

And I'd wager a cool one that you don't gain more than a second or so in 
compile time between a make -j8 and a make -j200 unless your network is a 
pair of tomato juice cans & some string.  Again, to me, the network thing 
is not something that's present in an everyday users environment.  My 
drives are all here and now, on pata-133 interfaces.

>	Ingo

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
If you would keep a secret from an enemy, tell it not to a friend.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-07 18:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-28 16:37 [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Con Kolivas
2007-03-28 17:34 ` [ck] " Prakash Punnoor
2007-04-01  6:40   ` Prakash Punnoor
     [not found]     ` <b14e81f00704010724i3155a16en91074ab789416f3d@mail.gmail.com>
2007-04-01 20:03       ` Prakash Punnoor
2007-03-28 18:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-03-28 23:44   ` Con Kolivas
2007-03-29  5:50     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:29       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:54         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  8:18       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29 12:55         ` [ck] " michael chang
2007-04-03  2:35         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  2:37       ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-03  5:31         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:00           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03  6:01           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-03  6:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:02             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:09               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 11:12                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:15                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 13:18                   ` Johannes Stezenbach
2007-04-05 15:28                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 11:54               ` [test] sched: SD-latest versus Mike's latest Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:10                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 12:12                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 12:24                     ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-05 16:08                 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-05 19:05                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-05 20:29                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  1:03                 ` Ten percent test Con Kolivas
2007-04-06  9:07                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06  9:28                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-06 10:03                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-06 10:40                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07  6:50                         ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-07 16:12                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-07 18:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 18:23                               ` Gene Heskett [this message]
2007-04-07 18:52                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-07 20:30                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 10:41                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 10:58                                       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-08 17:04                                         ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:03                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  4:08                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  5:59                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:01                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:33                                       ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-08 11:40                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 12:02                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:57                                             ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:19                                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:23                                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:09                                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 17:56                                           ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  4:17                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  5:16                                               ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09  6:06                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09  8:24                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 18:51                                       ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09  4:23                                         ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 12:14                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 13:27                                             ` Andreas Mohr
2007-04-09 19:54                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 14:15                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 17:05                                               ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 17:48                                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 19:09                                                   ` Rene Herman
2007-04-09 19:56                                                   ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:10                                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 13:53                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 15:37                                           ` Rene Herman
2007-04-07 19:14                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-07 20:31                                 ` Gene Heskett
2007-04-09 17:51                                 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-09 18:03                                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-04-09 18:44                                     ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-04-07 16:32                           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-08 13:08                           ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09  5:38                             ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-09 11:26                               ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-09 16:50                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-22 10:48                                   ` [ck] " Martin Steigerwald
2007-04-22 11:15                                     ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-10  2:39                               ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-10 11:23                                 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-04-10 12:04                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-06 10:48                       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-04-03 10:57           ` [PATCH] sched: staircase deadline misc fixes Mike Galbraith
2007-03-29  6:36 ` Con Kolivas
2007-04-23  8:58 ` Andrew Morton

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