From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752937AbXDKOvL (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:51:11 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752951AbXDKOvL (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:51:11 -0400 Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44]:50142 "EHLO vms044pub.verizon.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752937AbXDKOvJ (ORCPT ); Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:51:09 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2007 10:49:07 -0400 From: Gene Heskett Subject: Re: Hardware monitoring subsystem maintainer position is open In-reply-to: <20070411114905.3f114375@hyperion.delvare> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Cc: Jean Delvare Message-id: <200704111049.09026.gene.heskett@gmail.com> Organization: Organization? very little MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Content-disposition: inline References: <20070410150227.1bac05b5@hyperion.delvare> <461BB006.9020308@hhs.nl> <20070411114905.3f114375@hyperion.delvare> User-Agent: KMail/1.9.6 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday 11 April 2007, Jean Delvare wrote: >Hi Hans, > >On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:40:54 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Jean Delvare wrote: >> > I am resigning from my role as hardware monitoring subsystem >> > (drivers/hwmon) maintainer. This is too much work for me, I do not >> > have the necessary bandwidth to review all the incoming patches, in >> > particular new drivers, in a timely manner. Patch authors have been >> > complaining about this repeatedly. This is no fun for them, and even >> > less for me, so I'd rather let someone else with more spare time >> > take care of it. If there are volunteers, this is the right time to >> > speak up. >> >> I'm sorry to hear this and I can't help but think that my, erm, rant* >> yesterday is somehow involved in you making this decision. > >Obviously, it is. But please don't feel responsible for it. This just >happened to be the trigger, but that would have happened anyway. > >> This was in no way my intention. > >I know. > >> My intention was to try and make you change how you handle these >> things, > >Except that this isn't how open-source development works. You're not my >boss, you don't get to tell me how I should work. I work the way I >like, and if it doesn't fit with the rest of the community, I better >move on. > >> my intention was to make you less of a perfectionist and to distribute >> the work more, you cannot do everything yourself. I think that if you >> could change that you would be able to cope with the load better. > >Perfectionist - you said it. This is what I am, and this is unlikely to >change in a near future (if ever). But being a subsystem maintainer >requires that you trust contributors to some degree, and you just can't >trust contributors when you're a perfectionist. This means that the >maintainer should be less of a perfectionist than the contributors, >otherwise he/she ends up doing everything by him/herself. > >> I think you're experience / knowledge when it comes to hwmon stuff is >> very valuable and if you leave / quit doing hwmon stuff this would be >> a big loose. > >I didn't say I would leave entirely. I plan to stay around and keep >helping with the lm-sensors project and hwmon drivers. I just don't >want to be the hwmon subsystem maintainer anymore, as I don't fit in >the role and this makes me (and others) unhappy. Ouch. I'm very sorry to read this, Jean. We don't say thanks for a job very well done often enough, but because of you and Bill Wilson (gkrellm) I have been able to track those things that have a direct bearing on the health and longevity of my hardware, and see, on screen, indicators that tell me its time to pull the flower, clean and re-grease it well before the cpu fails. All with a minimum of bumps in the road for several years now. So, a big tip of the hat, and a heartfelt thank you for all your efforts. I hope that the next maintainer is as meticulous. Those shoes are, I can imagine, going to be hard to fill. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Fast ship? You mean you've never heard of the Millennium Falcon? -- Han Solo