From: David Chinner <dgc@sgi.com>
To: Amit Gud <gud@ksu.edu>
Cc: Nikita Danilov <nikita@clusterfs.com>,
David Lang <david.lang@digitalinsight.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
val_henson@linux.intel.com, riel@surriel.com, zab@zabbo.net,
arjan@infradead.org, suparna@in.ibm.com, brandon@ifup.org,
karunasagark@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] ChunkFS: fs fission for faster fsck
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:54:34 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070425105434.GX32602149@melbourne.sgi.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <462E7C47.8080604@ksu.edu>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 04:53:11PM -0500, Amit Gud wrote:
> Nikita Danilov wrote:
> >Maybe I failed to describe the problem presicely.
> >
> >Suppose that all chunks have been checked. After that, for every inode
> >I0 having continuations I1, I2, ... In, one has to check that every
> >logical block is presented in at most one of these inodes. For this one
> >has to read I0, with all its indirect (double-indirect, triple-indirect)
> >blocks, then read I1 with all its indirect blocks, etc. And to repeat
> >this for every inode with continuations.
> >
> >In the worst case (every inode has a continuation in every chunk) this
> >obviously is as bad as un-chunked fsck. But even in the average case,
> >total amount of io necessary for this operation is proportional to the
> >_total_ file system size, rather than to the chunk size.
> >
>
> Perhaps, I should talk about how continuation inodes are managed /
> located on disk. (This is how it is in my current implementation)
>
> Right now, there is no distinction between an inode and continuation
> inode (also referred to as 'cnode' below), except for the
> EXT2_IS_CONT_FL flag. Every inode holds a list of static number of
> inodes, currently limited to 4.
>
> The structure looks like this:
>
> ---------- ----------
> | cnode 0 |---------->| cnode 0 |----------> to another cnode or NULL
> ---------- ----------
> | cnode 1 |----- | cnode 1 |-----
> ---------- | ---------- |
> | cnode 2 |-- | | cnode 2 |-- |
> ---------- | | ---------- | |
> | cnode 3 | | | | cnode 3 | | |
> ---------- | | ---------- | |
> | | | | | |
>
> inodes inodes or NULL
How do you recover if fsfuzzer takes out a cnode in the chain? The
chunk is marked clean, but clearly corrupted and needs fixing and
you don't know what it was pointing at. Hence you have a pointer to
a trashed cnode *somewhere* that you need to find and fix, and a
bunch of orphaned cnodes that nobody points to *somewhere else* in
the filesystem that you have to find. That's a full scan fsck case,
isn't?
It seems that any sort of damage to the underlying storage (e.g.
media error, I/O error or user brain explosion) results in the need
to do a full fsck and hence chunkfs gives you no benefit in this
case.
Cheers,
Dave.
--
Dave Chinner
Principal Engineer
SGI Australian Software Group
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-25 10:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-04-23 11:21 Amit Gud
[not found] ` <17965.6084 1.900376.524639@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
2007-04-23 16:28 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-04-23 15:25 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-23 16:32 ` Suparna Bhattacharya
2007-04-24 11:44 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-24 18:27 ` David Lang
2007-04-24 19:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-24 19:26 ` David Lang
2007-04-25 11:34 ` Nikita Danilov
2007-04-25 16:39 ` David Lang
2007-04-25 22:47 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 14:14 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-26 15:53 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-26 16:05 ` Jeff Dike
2007-04-26 16:56 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-27 4:58 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 15:06 ` Jeff Dike
2007-05-01 17:26 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 16:11 ` Alan Cox
2007-04-26 16:44 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-24 21:53 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-25 10:54 ` David Chinner [this message]
2007-04-25 11:38 ` Andreas Dilger
2007-04-25 17:52 ` Amit Gud
2007-04-25 23:06 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-25 23:03 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-26 0:47 ` David Chinner
2007-04-26 22:21 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-26 8:47 ` Jan Kara
2007-04-27 5:07 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-27 10:53 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-28 6:50 ` Valerie Henson
2007-04-28 10:03 ` Jörn Engel
2007-04-25 22:43 ` Valerie Henson
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