From: Matt Mackall <mpm@selenic.com>
To: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: + fix-spellings-of-slab-allocator-section-in-init-kconfig.patch added to -mm tree
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 21:19:11 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070509021911.GB11115@waste.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705081828300.17376@schroedinger.engr.sgi.com>
On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 06:32:35PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> On Tue, 8 May 2007, Matt Mackall wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 08, 2007 at 05:51:27PM -0700, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Tue, 8 May 2007, Matt Mackall wrote:
> > >
> > > > First, SLOB no longer runs on SMP because SLAB grew some RCU-related
> > > > hair. So it now effectively has no locks at all!
> > >
> > > Well it seems that SLOB was not well maintained. RCU has been around for a
> > > long time and SLOB has not been updated to cope with it.
> >
> > RCU's incursion into SLAB that broke SLOB is relatively new. And it
> > only broke for people using SMP or SPARSEMEM. Intersection with target
> > audience of SLOB: ~0.
>
> New meaning in the last 3 years?
Whatever. I've already told you why it's a dontcare. I'm basically
done with this thread until some actual memory usage numbers are
injected into it.
> > > SLUB can put 32 objects sized 128 byte each in a 4k page. Can SLOB do
> > > the same?
> >
> > Yes. It can in fact put 512 8-byte objects in a 4k page. More
>
> So can SLUB.
Not without at least a bit per-object of overhead. So you can either
fit 512 objects in 4160 bytes or 504 objects in 4k.
> > importantly, it can put 2 1k objects and 16 128-byte objects on the
> > same page instead of on two pages.
>
> That SLUB cannot do. And I do not believe you. SLOB must have some way to
> distinguish the objects and their sizes since kfree does not include size
> information. You can mix slabs of different size on the same page without
> metadata. Magic?
>
> So how does kfree then know how to free the object? There must be some way
> where you get the metainformation. What is the point of your 8 byte
> metadata that keeps getting inserted? That does not consume memory on a
> page?
I've already explained this to you once tonight and there's only 8k of
code to read. It's also explained in the comment at the top:
* SLAB is emulated on top of SLOB by simply calling constructors and
* destructors for every SLAB allocation. Objects are returned with
* the 8-byte alignment unless the SLAB_HWCACHE_ALIGN flag is
* set, in which case the low-level allocator will fragment blocks to
* create the proper alignment. Again, objects of page-size or greater
* are allocated by calling __get_free_pages. As SLAB objects know
* their size, no separate size bookkeeping is necessary and there is
* essentially no allocation space overhead.
For the kmalloc case, we do have an 8-byte header, which works out to
be about 1/8th of the slop that mainline kmalloc over SLAB has on
average due to power of two cache sizes. So in both cases, less
overhead than SLAB and different-sized objects can be comingled. SLUB
would be awfully hard-pressed to have lower space overhead.
Compare:
void *kmem_cache_alloc(struct kmem_cache *c, gfp_t flags)
{
...
b = slob_alloc(c->size, flags, c->align);
...
}
void kmem_cache_free(struct kmem_cache *c, void *b)
{
...
slob_free(b, c->size);
...
}
vs.
void *__kmalloc(size_t size, gfp_t gfp)
{
...
m = slob_alloc(size + SLOB_UNIT, gfp, 0);
return m ? (void *)(m + 1) : 0;
...
}
void kfree(const void *block)
{
...
slob_free((slob_t *)block - 1, 0);
...
}
--
Mathematics is the supreme nostalgia of our time.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-09 2:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2007-05-09 0:23 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 0:32 ` Alan Cox
2007-05-09 0:33 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 0:43 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 0:51 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 1:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 1:32 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 1:51 ` David Miller
2007-05-09 1:53 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 1:55 ` David Miller
2007-05-09 1:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 2:06 ` David Miller
2007-05-09 2:10 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 2:20 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 2:02 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 2:56 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 3:18 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 3:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 3:47 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 0:42 ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-10 1:00 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-10 2:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 2:19 ` Matt Mackall [this message]
2007-05-09 2:24 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 2:43 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 2:57 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 3:04 ` Nick Piggin
2007-05-09 3:08 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-05-09 3:25 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 3:16 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-09 3:24 ` Christoph Lameter
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