From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net>
Cc: William Lee Irwin III <wli@holomorphy.com>,
Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@in.ibm.com>,
efault@gmx.de, tingy@cs.umass.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: fair clock use in CFS
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:08:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070514150800.GB29307@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200705141031.13528.dhazelton@enter.net>
* Daniel Hazelton <dhazelton@enter.net> wrote:
> [...] In a fair scheduler I'd expect all tasks to get the exact same
> amount of time on the processor. So if there are 10 tasks running at
> nice 0 and the current task has run for 20msecs before a new task is
> swapped onto the CPU, the new task and *all* other tasks waiting to
> get onto the CPU should get the same 20msecs. [...]
What happens in CFS is that in exchange for this task's 20 msecs the
other tasks get 2 msecs each. (and not only the one that gets on the CPU
next) So each task is handled equal. What i described was the first step
- for each task the same step happens (whenever it gets on the CPU, and
accounted/weighted for the precise period they spent waiting - so the
second task would get +4 msecs credited, the third task +6 msecs, etc.,
etc.).
but really - nothing beats first-hand experience: please just boot into
a CFS kernel and test its precision a bit. You can pick it up from the
usual place:
http://people.redhat.com/mingo/cfs-scheduler/
For example start 10 CPU hogs at once from a shell:
for (( N=0; N < 10; N++ )); do ( while :; do :; done ) & done
[ type 'killall bash' in the same shell to get rid of them. ]
then watch their CPU usage via 'top'. While the system is otherwise idle
you should get something like this after half a minute of runtime:
PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
2689 mingo 20 0 5968 560 276 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2692 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2693 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2694 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2695 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2698 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 10.0 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2690 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 9.9 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2691 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 9.9 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2696 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 9.9 0.1 0:03.45 bash
2697 mingo 20 0 5968 564 280 R 9.9 0.1 0:03.45 bash
with each task having exactly the same 'TIME+' field in top. (the more
equal those fields, the more precise/fair the scheduler is. In the above
output each got its precise share of 3.45 seconds of CPU time.)
then as a next phase of testing please run various things on the system
(without stopping these loops) and try to get CFS "out of balance" -
you'll succeed if you manage to get an unequal 'TIME+' field for them.
Please try _really_ hard to break it. You can run any workload.
Or try massive_intr.c from:
http://lkml.org/lkml/2007/3/26/319
which uses a much less trivial scheduling pattern to test a scheduler's
precision of scheduling)
$ ./massive_intr 9 10
002765 00000125
002767 00000125
002762 00000125
002769 00000125
002768 00000126
002761 00000126
002763 00000126
002766 00000126
002764 00000126
(the second column is runtime - the more equal, the more precise/fair
the scheduler.)
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-14 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-14 8:33 Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-14 10:29 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-14 10:31 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-14 11:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-14 11:22 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-14 11:20 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-14 12:04 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-14 23:57 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-14 20:20 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-14 11:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-14 14:31 ` Daniel Hazelton
2007-05-14 15:02 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-14 15:08 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2007-05-15 2:59 ` David Schwartz
2007-05-14 21:24 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-15 0:57 ` Ting Yang
2007-05-14 23:23 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-14 11:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-14 13:04 ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-14 13:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-14 15:02 Al Boldi
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