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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jmaitins@andrew.cmu.edu>
Cc: Jeremy Maitin-Shepard <jbms@cmu.edu>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>,
	Nigel Cunningham <nigel@nigel.suspend2.net>
Subject: Re: A kexec approach to hibernation
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 00:51:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070604225143.GF2711@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070604220910.GB2515@andrew.cmu.edu>

Hi!

> > > To me, it seems a lot easier to get right than the current approaches.
> > 
> > Well, you are certainly welcome to create the patch. "suspend3" name
> > is still free, AFAICT.
> 
> I could be sneaky and call it "hibernate".  Probably nicer though to use the 
> name "kexec hibernate" to be later simplified to just "hibernate".
> 
> I was hoping that everyone would like the idea so much that they would rush to 
> implement it, so that I wouldn't have to try.  (I haven't written

That apparently did not happen, that much should be clear by now.

> > If _I_ were willing to add some runtime overhead to make hibernation
> > simpler, I'd just use some virtualization to do that... with added
> > advantage of "hibernate here, resume on different hw".
> 
> I don't believe there is going to be any runtime overhead.

64MB less memory seems like runtime overhead for me. If you know how
to do kexec without pre-reserving memory, I believe kexec/kdump team
will be interested.

> To some extent, (see some of the explanations I gave in the other e-mail I
> sent a few minutes ago in reply to Nigel) I think the kexec appraoch can be
> viewed as a cleaner variant of userspace hibernate.

It also can be viewed as vaporware.

								Pavel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-04 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-01 20:39 Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-01 21:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-01 22:25   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-01 23:14     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-01 23:54       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-02  0:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-02  1:54           ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-02  9:22             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-04 10:46             ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 12:20               ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-04 13:10                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-04 13:16                   ` Matthew Garrett
2007-06-11  2:02                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-11 22:44                       ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-06-04 22:09               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-04 22:36                 ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-06-05  8:15                   ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-05  9:34                     ` Stefan Seyfried
2007-06-05  9:40                       ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-04 22:51                 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-06-11 15:07                   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-11  3:40             ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-06-11 15:01               ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-11 15:45                 ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-11 15:51                   ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-11 16:03                     ` Xavier Bestel
2007-06-11 17:05                       ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard
2007-06-04  4:40         ` Vivek Goyal
2007-06-04  5:22           ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-06-04  8:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-06-04  8:14               ` Nigel Cunningham
2007-06-04 21:44             ` Jeremy Maitin-Shepard

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