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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
To: Paul Jackson <pj@sgi.com>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	menage@google.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org, dev@sw.ru,
	xemul@sw.ru, vatsa@in.ibm.com, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	haveblue@us.ibm.com, svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	balbir@in.ibm.com, cpw@sgi.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, containers@lists.osdl.org,
	mbligh@google.com, rohitseth@google.com, devel@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] Containers(V10): Generic Process Containers
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:05:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070607000559.GA19529@sergelap.austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070606154347.a155630b.pj@sgi.com>

Quoting Paul Jackson (pj@sgi.com):
> > > I wasn't paying close enough attention to understand why you couldn't
> > > do it in two steps - make the container, and then populate it with
> > > resources.
> > 
> > Sorry, please clarify - are you saying that now you do understand, or
> > that I should explain?
> 
> Could you explain -- I still don't understand why you need this option.
> I still don't understand why you can't do it in two steps - make the
> container, then add cpu/mem separately.

Sure - the key is that the ns subsystem uses container_clone() to
automatically create a new container (on sys_unshare() or clone(2)
with certain flags) and move the current task into it.  Let's say
we have done

	mount -t container -o ns,cpuset nsproxy /containers

and we, as task 875, happen to be in the topmost container:

	/containers/

Now we fork task 999 which does an unshare(CLONE_NEWNS), or we just
clone(CLONE_NEWNS).  This will create

	/containers/node_999

and move task 999 into that container.  Except that when it tries
attach_task() it is refused by cpuset.  So the container_clone() fails,
and in turn the sys_unshare() or clone() fails.  A login making use
of the pam_namespace.so library would fail this way with the
ns and cpuset subsystems composed.

We could special case this by having
kernel/container.c:container_clone() check whether one of the subsystems
is cpusets and, if so, setting the defaults for mems and cpus, but
that is kind of ugly.  I suppose as a cleaner alternative we could 
add a container_subsys->inherit_defaults() handler, to be called at
container_clone(), and for cpusets this would set cpus and mems to
the parent values - sibling exclusive values.  If that comes to nothing,
then the attach_task() is still refused, and the unshare() or clone()
fails, but this time with good reason.

thanks,
-serge

  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-07  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29 13:01 menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 01/10] Containers(V10): Basic container framework menage
2007-05-30  7:15   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-30  7:15   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-30 14:02     ` Paul Menage
2007-05-30 16:00       ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-13 10:17   ` Dhaval Giani
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 02/10] Containers(V10): Example CPU accounting subsystem menage
2007-05-30  7:16   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 03/10] Containers(V10): Add tasks file interface menage
2007-06-07 14:00   ` Cedric Le Goater
2007-06-07 17:12     ` Paul Menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 04/10] Containers(V10): Add fork/exit hooks menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 05/10] Containers(V10): Add container_clone() interface menage
2007-05-30  7:16   ` Andrew Morton
2007-05-31 19:56     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 06/10] Containers(V10): Add procfs interface menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 07/10] Containers(V10): Make cpusets a client of containers menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 08/10] Containers(V10): Share css_group arrays between tasks with same container memberships menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 09/10] Containers(V10): Simple debug info subsystem menage
2007-05-29 13:01 ` [PATCH 10/10] Containers(V10): Support for automatic userspace release agents menage
2007-05-30  7:14 ` [PATCH 00/10] Containers(V10): Generic Process Containers Andrew Morton
2007-05-30  7:39   ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-28 21:27     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-28 22:13       ` [ckrm-tech] " Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2007-05-30  8:09   ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-30  9:02     ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-05-30  9:02       ` Balbir Singh
2007-05-30 10:48 ` Pavel Emelianov
2007-06-04 19:14 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 19:31   ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:30     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 20:37       ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:41       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 21:05         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-06 22:39           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-06 22:43             ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-07  0:05               ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
2007-06-07  0:46                 ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson
2007-06-07 18:01                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-07 19:21                     ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-07 20:17                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-07 22:01                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-08 14:32                           ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 15:55                             ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 16:08                               ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 16:16                                 ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 18:08                                   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 18:13                                     ` Paul Menage
2007-06-08 19:42                                       ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-08 20:05                                         ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-08 17:37                             ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 20:32   ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 20:51     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 20:56       ` Paul Menage
2007-06-04 21:11         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-06-04 21:16           ` Paul Jackson
2007-06-04 21:09       ` [ckrm-tech] " Paul Jackson

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