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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Chuck Ebbert <cebbert@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Tweedie <sct@redhat.com>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ext3fs: umount+sync not enough to guarantee metadata-on-disk
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2007 18:31:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070610183148.GB4272@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46687C05.1080408@rtr.ca>

Hi!

> >>Did this succeed?  If the application is still 
> >>truncating that file, the
> >>umount should have failed.
> >
> >Shouldn't sync should wait for truncate to finish?
> 
> The part that gets me here, and that others might be 
> missing,
> is that we are not waiting for ftruncate at this point.
> 
> We're waiting for unlink.  The application that was 
> doing ftruncate
> in tiny little doses has been sent a kill-9 signal, so 
> what should
> be happening now (confirmed by disk activity LEDs) is 
> the file should
> just be getting deleted the same as if we did "rm 
> bigfile" on it.

Well, AFAICT kill-9 signal delivery can take time. It still might be
doing ftruncate.

It would be interesting to know when in that sequence mythtv dies...
or perhaps put loop 'while killall -9 mythtv returns success, sleep 1'
into shutdown scripts?
							Pavel

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-06-12 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-07 13:44 Mark Lord
2007-06-07 15:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-07 16:01   ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 17:09     ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-10 18:27     ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-12 15:15       ` Stephen C. Tweedie
2007-06-14 19:01       ` Phillip Susi
2007-06-07 16:11   ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-06-07 19:45     ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-07 21:38       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-07 22:04         ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-08 14:51           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-09  2:58       ` Mark Lord
2007-06-11 11:14         ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:47           ` Mark Lord
2007-06-12 10:00             ` Jan Kara
2007-06-07 21:43     ` Mark Lord
2007-06-10 18:31       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2007-06-11 11:05       ` Jan Kara
2007-06-11 22:46         ` Mark Lord

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