From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1757288AbXFLPq6 (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:46:58 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754251AbXFLPqr (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:46:47 -0400 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:33737 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752128AbXFLPqp (ORCPT ); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 11:46:45 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.16,412,1175497200"; d="scan'208";a="95815396" Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 08:43:19 -0700 From: Kristen Carlson Accardi To: Jeff Garzik Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Tejun Heo , james.bottomley@steeleye.com, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Pavel Machek , Jens Axboe Subject: Re: [patch 0/3] AHCI Link Power Management Message-Id: <20070612084319.b2e69248.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> In-Reply-To: <466E2460.3050703@garzik.org> References: <20070611114600.7fca1c24.kristen.c.accardi@intel.com> <466DFDB5.9030901@gmail.com> <466E0642.5020506@linux.intel.com> <466E1D51.9070007@gmail.com> <466E1EC6.90509@linux.intel.com> <466E2460.3050703@garzik.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.3.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 00:43:12 -0400 Jeff Garzik wrote: > We will do AHCI link PM -- presuming that I can be convinced that it > does not repeatedly park the hard drive heads, or something similarly > annoying on PATA<->SATA bridges and similar setups. > > IF it works as advertised -- a big if considering all the AHCI silicon > implementations out there -- we definitely want to use it. > > Jeff > I understand that this is a concern of yours based on some experience you had with earlier controllers. In general, this behavior would be considered incorrect - link power management should not translate to disk parking, even on PATA->SATA brigdes, and if it does, then that's completely broken. That said, I would believe you if you said broken hardware exists, and when you get specific examples of it, you can add it to the blacklist for this feature.