From: Oleg Verych <olecom@flower.upol.cz>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: arch/i386/boot rewrite, and all the hard-coded video cards
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:18:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070614071802.GJ7266@flower.upol.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4670CDF0.808@zytor.com>
On Wed, Jun 13, 2007 at 10:11:12PM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Oleg Verych wrote:
> > Thus, text mode on modern hardware isn't useable that much, only with
> > Terminus font it is kind of normal (kudos to Dimitar Toshkov Jekov).
> > But it's only option to unfortunately sucking X11, even with memory
> > bandwidth, you are talking about.
>
> That's another reason to use the framebuffer console on laptops.
Last time i tried, it wasn't so much fun either. Mainly due to wild
cursor, that in normal text mode is well-behaved thing. Visually fb looks
much heavier. What's the benefit, if you see how windows in emacs are
painted? I don't know how giga-hertz/mem in cpu/sys-ram,
mega-hertz/ram in gpu are doing better job WRT to anything in visual
domain.
Also i don't know what to do in case of bugs/oops and "officially" closed
hardware specs on ATI chips{ref}.
About laptop. First and last time i ran new X11 (X.org) there, it drove
VGA fan really crazy. Don't know how it changed now, it was certainly due
to blindly switching 3D on. I don't want to remove *standard* drivers
because of that stupidness [see ref].
And after whole year being with Debian Sarge only, new application update
led me to just drop all that X stuff and run windoze (silently sold to me
with that laptop) if i need a stupid web browser with all that WEB 2.0
and Java crap...
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-14 7:05 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-01 1:33 H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 1:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-01 1:42 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 7:46 ` Martin Mares
2007-05-02 9:22 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-02 20:49 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-03 2:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 19:05 ` Lennart Sorensen
2007-05-01 1:51 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-01 2:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 2:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01 3:46 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 2:54 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 4:29 ` Andi Kleen
2007-05-01 3:38 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 3:06 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01 3:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 3:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-05-01 3:44 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 2:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-01 2:59 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-01 20:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-01 21:01 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-01 21:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-01 21:52 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-14 4:51 ` Oleg Verych
2007-06-14 5:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-06-14 7:18 ` Oleg Verych [this message]
2007-05-01 22:59 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-01 23:18 ` Antonino A. Daplas
2007-05-02 18:22 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-05-02 20:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:07 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-02 21:15 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:20 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-02 21:25 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 21:39 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-02 22:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 22:49 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-02 22:59 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-02 23:18 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-03 2:09 ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-05-01 3:56 ` WANG Cong
2007-05-01 22:41 Vlad
2007-05-01 23:22 ` Rene Herman
2007-05-02 1:10 ` Vlad
2007-05-02 18:25 ` Jan Engelhardt
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