From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760638AbXGBO7S (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:59:18 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1756426AbXGBO7K (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:59:10 -0400 Received: from [81.2.110.250] ([81.2.110.250]:38495 "EHLO the-village.bc.nu" rhost-flags-FAIL-FAIL-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752856AbXGBO7J (ORCPT ); Mon, 2 Jul 2007 10:59:09 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:05:08 +0100 From: Alan Cox To: "Kilau, Scott" Cc: "Robert P. J. Day" , "Linux Kernel Mailing List" , "Eng.Linux" Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] Remove support for the orphaned, obsolete Digi EPCA driver. Message-ID: <20070702160508.3d34cb90@the-village.bc.nu> In-Reply-To: <335DD0B75189FB428E5C32680089FB9F012DD309@mtk-sms-mail01.digi.com> References: <20070702144605.5cf99b3a@the-village.bc.nu> <20070702151534.2728ae63@the-village.bc.nu> <335DD0B75189FB428E5C32680089FB9F012DD309@mtk-sms-mail01.digi.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.9.1 (GTK+ 2.10.8; i386-redhat-linux-gnu) Organization: Red Hat UK Cyf., Amberley Place, 107-111 Peascod Street, Windsor, Berkshire, SL4 1TE, Y Deyrnas Gyfunol. Cofrestrwyd yng Nghymru a Lloegr o'r rhif cofrestru 3798903 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > (Probably the biggest obstacle, was the extra ioctls to > manage "Digi" specific things, and other hooks that are > simply not permitted in in-kernel code) Oh please ignore the ioctl bigots, I think they've also mostly gone away and accepted they lost the argument to the real world anyway/ > Trust me, I *know* the pain of keeping the driver out-of-tree > with the constant flux in the kernel API, and I understand that > most people here say its completely self-inflicted... > > But massively crippling the driver from a usability POV, > just simply isn't an option. Sure Alan