From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760032AbXGEQkX (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:40:23 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1758387AbXGEQkJ (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:40:09 -0400 Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([140.211.166.183]:42822 "EHLO smtp.gentoo.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1758253AbXGEQkG (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:40:06 -0400 From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] util-linux-ng 2.13-rc1 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 12:41:59 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 Cc: Karel Zak , List util-linux-ng , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org References: <20070703221156.GY14825@petra.dvoda.cz> <20070704084211.GA19128@infradead.org> In-Reply-To: <20070704084211.GA19128@infradead.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4058283.TlGlUmDnHe"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200707051242.00625.vapier@gentoo.org> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --nextPart4058283.TlGlUmDnHe Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Wednesday 04 July 2007, Christoph Hellwig wrote: > On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 12:11:56AM +0200, Karel Zak wrote: > > mount(8) doesn't include filesystem detection code anymore. You > > have to compile --with-fsprobe=3D{blkid,volume_id}, and libblkid > > (e2fsprogs) or libvolume_id (udev >=3D v110) is required. > > Sorry, but it's really annoying to pull in a filesystem-specific devel > package for that. Having a library is fine, but please move the library > into util-linux so it's always available without another dependency. ugh, moving libraries which are already actively maintained by other core=20 projects into util-linux is so not a good idea (ignoring the fact that it'd= =20 easily be a pita/waste for distro maintainers) > That=20 > way xfsprogs could for example drop it's own detection library aswell. i dont really think this is dependent on util-linux at all. nothing is=20 stopping xfsprogs from depending on udev or e2fsprogs now. > > The package build system is now based on autotools. The build system > > supports separate CFLAGS and LDFLAGS for suid programs (SUID_CFLAGS, > > SUID_LDFLAGS). For more details see the README file > > And this is really dumb. autotools is a completely pain in the ass and not really at all. hand written build systems are a constant source of pai= n=20 for distribution maintainers and people trying to cross-compile (and the on= e=20 that was in util-linux had many problems in both these areas). > not useful at all for linux-only tools. incorrect. linux changes over time as does the kernel/libc/architecture=20 api's. look at the old util-linux build system -- it had a crappy hand=20 written configure script to try and detect all these different issues. =2Dmike --nextPart4058283.TlGlUmDnHe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (GNU/Linux) iQIVAwUARo0fWEFjO5/oN/WBAQLxjRAAyvQHL/6V0yFayUp6tMZa6OpAXfiqQNwF 9NIQtfKxZlYf9NgVj1vzpam9nvtThm1GMXqHXIEBSzn0nrfGgN1H+k7Tq1qIotUC 0jt6MPADP5zolLhZRJBeQ67/QCBN6ajetTDtiVLJDGMoQQ7axMhxN8PdFYPN0Zpa sCdsdqczLEJPofZ6pvtud86q+NmQVb6juzHHBmYC8+5/FMuIpxCuHS9B18Y2oQss 8uJ3Ff3jMpiM84nNrq9Pbg8zONCtHWcc2NlkwXwV/dzxgOFdxh6r8IH3X4DbUPk3 tRkCTlsfzpgPFqtQQu4sRlj0Cu8Oq+ySiYTVUxh47Qz/JRKLVKtKB/YWjt/7yjM5 wPk9vycj131jUzL8ZSQAwRx+R1ebp/VtJ/vpVPS/o4lA2dfEss8SUsHFDLxQTTsB /D/X0b0X0tk+HIw6BXtz4qrSHyQHFnD8RiWgxQ4aECQLUV80cCY+8mXYYbOMzETV lS/ySv5fJANYUB7YF4zNAA0sN7hp+Vlw2vEw/hQXzWulRvqyk1vGhe0eGN+sAWvu T45NOmu9G+lRz2TrFXP0UaRl1Cp3QLiHCyee7zgw5+iqC6gu2Z+db7VNXvImQA+C J/vdqrqzzNPur5DyZah40UmnAex3I1o482ECJ94LObP6riJF9rQuw0dz88i4uECS DelkgfEOJqg= =JpdJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4058283.TlGlUmDnHe--