From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1760789AbXGEPDv (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:03:51 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1757360AbXGEPDp (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:03:45 -0400 Received: from cavan.codon.org.uk ([217.147.92.49]:60991 "EHLO vavatch.codon.org.uk" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1757094AbXGEPDo (ORCPT ); Thu, 5 Jul 2007 11:03:44 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 16:03:01 +0100 From: Matthew Garrett To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Pavel Machek , Paul Mackerras , Alan Stern , Johannes Berg , Linux-pm mailing list , Kernel development list Message-ID: <20070705150301.GB23647@srcf.ucam.org> References: <18059.6726.218205.104212@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com> <200707051641.39998.rjw@sisk.pl> <20070705143918.GA23248@srcf.ucam.org> <200707051704.48137.rjw@sisk.pl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200707051704.48137.rjw@sisk.pl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.12-2006-07-14 X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: mjg59@codon.org.uk Subject: Re: removing refrigerator does not help with s2ram vs. fuse deadlocks (was Re: [linux-pm] Re: [PATCH] Remove process freezer from suspend to RAM pathway) X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:35:45 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on vavatch.codon.org.uk) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jul 05, 2007 at 05:04:47PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Thursday, 5 July 2007 16:39, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > Why? > > You have processes that don't react to signals, because some other user land > task is misbehaving. I'd call that ugly at the very least. It already happens with, say, NFS. Don't think about it in terms of a userland task misbehaving - think of it in terms of a resource becoming unavailable. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59@srcf.ucam.org